Fairview Park, Yuen Long
Posted by 190k (2377 days ago)
I have read so many thread about moving out of the city and everyone seems to be going to Sai Kung CWB. I have lived in CWB for 8 years (Las Pinadas) and now have lived in Fairview Park in Yuen Long for 10 years.
I much prefer Fairview Park. It is 25 minutes by estate bus to central 15 min to Sheung Shui, 10 min to Yuen Long, 20 min to Tsing Yi AR Station. You have your own house with garden and car park. The town center has its own supermarket, 2 24 hr convenience stores, 2 chemists, wet market, hard ware stores, medical facilities, hair dressers, food court, restruants, free feeder bus within the estate, petrol station. You can join the country club for a very reasonable cost (2nd hand) which has a 40 m pool with toddlers pool, gym, tennis, golf cages, libary, 2 restruants. there are plenty of school busses that take kids to the ESF schools and other local schools. That is all within the estate which has excellent security and rubbish collection and the management fees are very reasonable for what you are getting.
Although the supermarket does not really cater to expats there is a supermarket in Yuen Long 10 min by bus or Hong Lok Yuen 15 by car that have excellent supplies for expat tastes. Also remember that Yuen Long is fast becoming a town for quality but very affordable eating lots of Japanese, Korean, Thai, a couple of steak houses have recently opened and of course you can't forget Shaffis Curry the original Shek Kong curry from the colonial days.
So for those who are thinking of moving out of the city have a good look at Fairview Park the number of expats moving in is increasing.
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Posted by vantastic (2377 days ago)
Yuen Long would have to be one of the least appealing area's of Hong Kong.
The distance from shops etc just doesnt factor into the reasoning of why expats live in CWB, Sai Kung, The Gold Coast, Discovery Bay, Lantau and Lamma.
The whole idea is to get away from the high density construction areas and replace the whole outlook by sea, mountain, beach and tree lined greenery.
Having a largere home in these area's would also render local restaurants a low priority, when you consider most of these larger home locations, generally have a fully equipped kitchen that includes a full sized gas oven and 4 burner hot plate. We cook at home 6 nights a week, and pretty much live the way we did prior to HK, we also don't have any interest in LKF or wasting our lives away in bars. We enjoy our 15th floor Castle Peak Bay, 50m2 roof top garden to do that, and when our friends drop in for a BBQ and relaxing Sunday afternoon wine. Lifes pretty good.
Depends where the expat was from originally, if they were from a low denisty first world city previously, like NZ, AUS, South Africa etc etc, they arent going to find high density area's of Hong Kong appealing.
A sea view rates pretty high for most scenery seeking mainland living expats, hence why Yuen Long would not get much interest.
I have a question also, why is Japanese and Korean food so important to some HK locals ? Don't you get, A/ Sick of it and, B/ doesnt the level of mercury and cadmium in HK seafood worry you ?
I stopped eating seafood in HK the moment we arrived, not just for the obvious health issues, but for the irresponsible selfish fishing practices that have virtually killed most of HK's reefs. No reefs, no fishing industry long term. A disgrace encouraged by consumer demand....
Posted by 190k (2377 days ago)
Fiarview Park is NOT in YUEN LONG Town. It is an estate of houses much like Marina Cove, Hong Lok Yuen and is 7 km from Yuen Long Town. It take 25 minutes to Central or TST by bus or quicker if you drive yourself. How long does it take to get from Sai Kung taking into consideration traffic lights and congestion. Oh I forgot to mention before things is much cheaper that Sai Kung, rental, food, club houses etc
Most of the seafood in HK is IMPORTED a lot from Australia or fish farms in China and Thailand.
Vantastic you are so negative why do you bother to live in HK which is know for its quality seafood meals. To me living in the city is the least appealing place to live in HK. My garden has a mango tree, lemon tree and I grow my own herbs all organically. I can get organic vegies in Yuen Long at a 1/3 of the price than sold in citysuper and other organic outlets. Free range eggs, chickens, organic as well.
Posted by vantastic (2377 days ago)
How do you know when eating at a restaurant if the seafood you're eating actually came from Australia ?
Back to the original topic...
Well compared to all of the other locations that xpats live, none of which were located in the City in the previous post, Yuen Long would be at the bottom of most expats location lists. That includes Fair View Park which is on the way to Sheung Shui, about 8 minutes from YL town by car or mini bus.
I should know, I lived in Ma Tin road for a couple of years, Covent Gardens, with a nice view of Yuen Long Park, and talking from experience, Yuen Long isnt at all appealing, if compared to CWB, Sai Kung, DB, Tuen Mun, Tsuen Wan, Park island or many other bayside suburbs.
I love where we live now on Castle Peak Bay in Tuen Mun, its a massive sea change to where you are talking about.
Also, I never mentioned Yuen Long Town, I only stated Yuen Long, which Fair View Park geographically belongs to.
I am entitled to my opinion, and I don't like the area you mentioned, because I don't share your view, I am considered negative ?
Very interesting, indeed....
Posted by 190k (2377 days ago)
Ma Tin Road can not compare to Fairview park please give us a break. Castle Peak Bay is nice I have to admit but it doesn't have the on hand facilities that FP has. It is a 10 minute walk or 3 minute cycle ride from my house to FP town centre and 3 minute walk to the bus stop. Convenience is a big factor.
Posted by Saikunga (2377 days ago)
I don't like Fairview Park either and I don't like Yuen Long even more. The houses are on top of each other in Fairview Park and there are very few trees. It has a very HK 'local village' feel about it - albeit managed - I don't like Marina Cove either but at least many of the houses look out onto something whereas Fairview Park does not have any outlook except into each others places.
Yuen Long is totally unplanned, dirty and just yuck. Too much money grabbing development without enough thought.
Most Expats I know like space, privacy, order, cleanliness, and good neighbours at an affordable price - anything more is a bonus, doesn't matter where it is. Yuen Long doesn't offer too much in these categories.
Sorry if it is negative but that is my feelings - having lived in Sai Kung for 13 years I fully understand why expats would want to live here.
Posted by vantastic (2377 days ago)
Posted by 190k (4 hrs ago)
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"Castle Peak Bay is nice I have to admit but it doesn't have the on hand facilities that FP has."
And what facilities would they be, that we miss out on ?
Our Yu Chui Street ( one of the nicest/neatest streets in Hong Kong )" low density " complex has its own public beach, a massive public tree lush park out front that follows the contour of the beach, squash courts, a sauna, tennis courts, snooker room, reading room, comprehensively equipped gym, the whole sha'bang.
The xpat oriented Welcome super market is a brisk 10 minute walk away, how close do you have to be, to be conveniant or not lol. Buses off Castle Peak road, which our complex backs onto, are a 5 minute walk up some steps that meet the road, again, what are we missing out on ?
We loved the area so much, we purchased our 15th floor apartment that includes its own private roof top timber decked garden.
Also,like most xpats who live in our complex, we have our own car, so we can shop pretty much where ever, not much is further than 15 minutes car drive away. It's also nice to have a Sunday brunch at one of the many promenade outdoor cafe's overlooking the Gold Coast Mariner, I am sure most of the other xpat locations mentioned have similar lifestyle traits. Yuen Long doe's not...
I fully agree with Saikunga, as I have lived in the Sai Kung CWB area, which we loved, and the main motivator for us moving back to a 180 degree sea view, with all of the outdoor usable aspects we enjoy.
I have driven in Fair View park, and like Saikunga's depiction, it really is a white elephant.
As long as you like living there 190K, that's all that really matters, trying to convince other xpats, is going to be pushing mud up a very steep hill..
Posted by ken132 (2376 days ago)
Different strokes for different folks! As long as YOU are happy where you are living, irrespective of whether its sai kung or yuen long, who gives a rats ass? Each person has their own criteria, and it seems pointless to denigrate other people's choices.
I'm looking to move out of the city and I intend to look at all places - including this Fairview Park and Saikung.
Anyway, stay happy.
Posted by Berryblack (2324 days ago)
I just moved into there - views of the mountains are quite nice. Its quite OK - very much of a suburbia environment (somehow, it reminds me of the planned satellite new towns in England). It is definitely targeted more towards locals rather than expats though.
I'd disagree with the description of it being a white elephant though - the transaction rate seems quite healthy.
Location wise - probably not the best if you need to commute to the island, but it is ideal for people with business across the border, which is why i chose it.
Word to the wise however, expect to invest some time and money in extensive renovations since the houses there are almost 30 years old.
Posted by pere (2101 days ago)
could anyone please advice on a sales lead in buying such 30year old village house!
Posted by ccanjg (1747 days ago)
hi i was wondering which esf school is close to yuen long. and also what about the school bus svs.
Posted by Gino di Lemma (1747 days ago)
there is an ESF primary school in Hong Lok Yuen and ESF Shatin College in Shatin.
I always wonder why people come to Hong Kong if they prefer the Hemel Hempstead lifestyle so much.
Posted by evildeeds (1745 days ago)
"I always wonder why people come to Hong Kong if they prefer the Hemel Hempstead lifestyle so much."
Same could be said for Mid Levels...........
And if you really want that HK experience you wouldn't be in a high rise either....
Posted by ken (1745 days ago)
There is the new International College opening up next year in Sha Tau Kok. Yes different strokes for different folks, the Yuen Long district has been the fastest growing area of Hong Kong for many years running now. And there is some very good spacious reasonably priced places in nice villages to found here with some research in advance. Moving more toward Tai Po the back drop of the mountains in Kam Tin area marvelous, and from the peaks between Lam Kam/Fam Kam Roads are some of the most spectacular views of all of Hong Kong. Plover Cove, Wu Kau Tang and Luk Keng are also tops.
Posted by kawingcheung (1506 days ago)
yes the new international school that will open in sha tau kok is the world renowned harrow boys school where english royalty in seven british prime ministers have been educated. I've heard it will be pretty expensive as well, but they will be catering for students that want accomodation as well . if you want to enroll you better do it as soon as soon as possible because i have heard there is a lot of people that are queing up to get in.
Posted by PizzaAce (1503 days ago)
lol @ kawingcheung. Who cares if 7 British PMs when to Harrow. The certainly did not go to Harrow in HONG KONG. Its just a name. The teachers aren't even imported from the UK, so what are you paying for.
Its a complete waste of money and you're better off sending your children to a public school in Hong Kong and using the money you saved to spend on private tutors (e.g. 1 on 1 tutoring if your child actually needs it). Expats always are mesmerised by a famous name but don't investigate the substance of it.
Posted by LilyShan (1265 days ago)
Hi Fairview Parkers!
Our dog is missing.
Her name is Pansy. She is 6 years old. She is a minature doberman pinscher. She is a small dog thats black with some small brown/tan markings. If you have her at your house or have seen her please msg me! Thanks! Lily
Posted by Man132 (1257 days ago)
Membership for sale - allows for you and your family. Immediately available
I have a Fairview Park OCuntry CLub memebership for sale.
Cost is $5,000 neg. Buyer responsible for transfer costs.
Call 6346 2328 Mr Man
Posted by 190k (1255 days ago)
Thats no a bad deal. Tx cost is $10k so total $15k. New membership from the club is over $35K now. I got mine for $15k, 5 years ago so you offer is very reasonable
Posted by bighead_cat (1240 days ago)
Thanks for recommending FVP. We are moving to HK in less than 3 weeks from UK. Our children are going to start Hong Lok Yuen International School. I've been looking for houses online in Tai Po area, but the commute time to Central (where my husband will work) seems to be too long. Now that you mentioned about FVP, it sounds like the transportation is better than Tai Po. The house price is also very reasonable. We will definitely go and have a look as soon as we arrive. I do have a few questions:
1. do you have problem with mosquitos in FVP?
2. do the shuttle buses to Central get full in the morning peak hours?
3. how does the country club membership work? do you pay a lump sum, or annual fee or monthly fee?
4. I did quick search on FVP on Centanet, there are 88 houses on the market (I don't know how update the listings are). Apart from the 8XX sqf ones that are too small for us. Do you have any recommendation on which model and which area?
Posted by OffThePeak (1240 days ago)
With the description in the Original Post, it sounds sub-optimal for people who like walkable communities, which in HK it means walking to shopping and the MTR
Posted by 190k (1240 days ago)
1-Anywhere where you have a house in HK will have mossies, I have netting on the windows and have no problem;
2-Never a problem getting on a bus in the morning as there is one nearly every 3-5 minutes between 7-7:40 am the tiome table does not show that there are more busses than the schedule. Hong Lok Yuen is 15 minutes drive away and they have school busses form FVP
3-If you buy a new membership then you pay a non-refundable deposit (about $35k) and then monthly subs of $940HK, if you buy second hane the membership it is about $3-5K plus a transfer fee of about $10K and then monthly subs of $940;
4- 1500 are the best, apart from the top floor balcony there is less space wasted. 1050 are also good on space but if you are buying you can consider getting two 850 houses and making one big house quite a few of those around.
walk/cycle to the bus stop same as walking to MTR
We have our own shopping centre with good european park'n Shop as well as wet market and other convenience stores food hall etc within walking/cycling distance of all houses and a free internal feeder bus service
Posted by ArtfulDodger (1239 days ago)
FVP is old. There are newer estates in the New Territories. I heard of Seasons Monarch on 183 Kam Tin Road, which is next to Kam Sheung Road MTR station on the West Rail line and built in 2009. Into Central in 30 minutes by MTR or bus. I think you can rent a 2,700 sqf three storey townhouse with a flat roof and backyard for under $20K per month there. And owning a car is cheap and parking is free on your own driveway. They also have a clubhouse with pool and gym which is free to use.
Posted by bighead_cat (1239 days ago)
Seasons Monarch looks very attractive on advert. But when I found out that all of those so called 2700 sqf houses only have 1090 sqf actual space. I am shocked.
We can never tell how big a house is by looking on paper. Like FVP, the house of 1300 sqf has only around 9XX sqf actual, but the 1050 sqf house has 1020 sqf actual. But still I can't quite work out how could they advertise Seasons Monarch as 2700 sqf. It doesn't add up to that much even including the garage. Perhaps they included all the streets and club houses etc.
Having said that. I might still go and have a look when I get there.
Posted by ArtfulDodger (1223 days ago)
What I understand happens at Seasons Monarch, is they convert the garage into a room. So you get another floor of space. Then they buy some pre-fab small house and put it on the flat roof, or cover it so it can be used as a laundry.
Each floor is around 500 sqf, so you have four floors including the roof, which would bring it up to around 2,000 sqf internal, and then you include the backyard and driveway to bring it up to 2,700 sqf approximately.
I think you have to go and see for yourself, as I did some inspections there and it looks very big compared to the smaller FVP ones.
Posted by casuals (1176 days ago)
Yuen Long rocks! Only 35mins by shuttle bus,... plus there's SPACE, which you could never get in HK unless you were absolutely minted.
Posted by BGW (1171 days ago)
Having lived in HK for 30 years and Fairview Park for the last 12 I can say I love it there. I have a great yard, 2 mango trees, lychee tree and a longan tree.
Yes there are other newer estates and if you want to spend 15 - 30 million for a house and can afford to spend that much you may find nicer environments. If you're not making a squillion dollars a year, would like a decent sized house, a garden, a place to park a car or two, a yard you can BBQ and enterain in, a yard you can let your dogs run around in along with access to 9 tennis courts, an olympic size pool, nice gym etc, then Fairview Park is for you. The private transportation system is fantastic. Buses every 10 minutes to West Rail. Buses every 10 minutes to East Rail. Buses to and from Kowloon and HK island in the morning and evenings. You're not stranded if you don't have a car.
If you drive it's non stop to the airport or HK island.
It's not for everyone but I love Fairview Park and know a lot of people that do.
Posted by Man132 (1170 days ago)
Have moved out of there recently after staying there for a few years. Now moved to the island for the school networks, but I do miss it. The lifestyle is certainly reminiscent and certainly not a "white elephant" according to earlier entries in this thread.
Posted by ChuLim (1162 days ago)
Hi, I just bought into FVP and would like to know if anyone here can recommend a good contractor who has done a couple of FVP homes?
Posted by bighead_cat (1160 days ago)
Me too. Just bought a house in FVP. Our builders are doing some work on the house. I am quite happy with them so far. But it's early days yet. I will let you if they are good in a couples of weeks. I can give you the number if you need one now.
Posted by bighead_cat (1160 days ago)
Thanks those who recommended FVP. I really like the environment and facilities there. Can't wait to move in. My children love the playground.
Does anybody know where I can buy a second club house membership?
Posted by ChuLim (1160 days ago)
Hi bighead_cat, would really appreciate your kind recommendation and the number of your builder. I will be doing a total house renovation the moment the present owner moves out early next month.
Posted by 190k (1156 days ago)
uyou can go directly to the club and ask for second hand memberships available they will sort it all out for you and negotiate with the old member. I paid $3000 for my second hand membership + $10k transfer fee. New membership is about $35k. Also look on the noice board at P N' Shop
Posted by bighead_cat (1141 days ago)
I sent my builder phone number to you via private message. Hope you got it.
Our house is ready by the end of this week. I would recommend the builder. He has several people working for him. They did a good job. But the builder doesn't speak English.
In case anybody else is looking for a builder, I would recommend Wing Shing Decoration Co. The builder lives in Fairview Park. His number is 90375816.
Posted by ChuLim (1140 days ago)
Thanks for the tel no of the builder. I will certainly give him a call soon. As he lives in FVP, he can certainly give me some pointers on how to renovate within the requirements of the Management of FVP! We are chinese, so language should not be a problem!
Posted by gingerkan (1064 days ago)
hi bighead cat,
how are you, welcome to Hong Kong,
I have a Fairview Park Country CLub memebership for sale. if interested, pls call 96365989 for details. regards
Posted by Aqualin3 (1009 days ago)
I are considering to move back to FVP in Sep...but will need A lot of renovation work done. Thank u for ur post chu lim.
190k ur garden sounds interesting..but ours is a small one for trees...maybe some organic herbs and shrubs sounds good.
Posted by bighead_cat (1009 days ago)
To followup on this thread, we've been living in FVP nearly 5 months, I am very pleased with the choice.
Our garden is reasonably big for HK standard. We've done lots of entertaining in the garden in the last 5 months. We've also got a mango tree, lots of flowers and we are growing salad and herbs.
The house itself is on the small side. But it's in HK after all, we are prepared for that. The commute to work is indeed very convenient. Me and husband take the same shuttle bus in the morning, he gets off at Central and me at Wanchai. It takes around 35 mins on the bus and about 45-50mins door to door.
It has plenty of public space, a big grass lawn for picnic, children play grounds, a wet market, supermarket etc.
Several of my friends after visiting us have started to look for houses in FVP.
Thank you ginerkan for the country club membership offer, but unfortunately I brought a new membership as soon as we moved in. I think the club house is worth the money.
Posted by 190k (1008 days ago)
Maybe we should start FVP community under the Communities thread on this site then we can share advice and problems with the management etc
Posted by TNO (1008 days ago)
Yes, an FVP community would be great. I am a neighbor - we are in The Vineyard, and I am sure there are lots of folks in nearby estates that would like this. I would love to get advice on English speaking Mandarin teachers, piano teachers etc. Best, R
Posted by bighead_cat (1007 days ago)
It's a great idea. I would love to get to know more neighbours in FVP and around. But I don't know who the community things work on this site.
Posted by alkyung (1000 days ago)
Hi, i just bought a place in FVP. it's so great to see so much enthusiasm for the place!
may i get some good builder contacts from you guys?
(great to have a FVP community! it's such a great place for gathering and BBQ!)
Posted by 190k (972 days ago)
I just started a FVP thread in the communities section of the forum
Posted by Man132 (874 days ago)
I'm still getting enquiries on my post about FVP membership for sale from a year ago... the membership is no longer available. Thanks!
Posted by JTinHK (858 days ago)
Hello All. We have just moved to Fairview with our Labrador. Does anyone fancy coming on a couple of walks, either around the estate or further afield with their dog(s) too? We're finding that the other dogs are not too friendly and their walkers don't seem to be too keen on dogs socialising. All ours wants to do is say hello!
Posted by bethshaw28 (844 days ago)
quick question , i have referred to a friend of a friend to they are on facebook and the website is under construction , they are happy with the quote but are concern giving 40% deposit for the $0.5Million has anyone worked with these people ? splendor design 28283487 , they told them they said the are currently setting up a design shop in fairview , can anyone confirm this , is there a design firm called splendor design in fairview,
Posted by wong388 (805 days ago)
I have my country club membership (home owner membership) for sale. Any body interested, please leave a message here.
I live in Fairview park for over 10 years, love here but recently moving out to a village house in Yuen Long for more space over there.
Posted by girya (797 days ago)
Hi guys.. I am planning to move to Fairview park and we are an Indian family. I visited the estate few days ago and really liked it . I would like to know if any Indian families are living in Fairview park . Thanks in advance.
Posted by 190k (743 days ago)
I am selling my FPCC membership. Buyer will need to pay $17k transfer fee. All reasonable offers will be considered. Please reply to this ad.
New membership is $33k.
Posted by Man132 (728 days ago)
Made a nostalgic visit to FVP recently. I'm appalled at the dining area now. Whilst the Pacific Coffee is nice - but c'mon - all Cafe de Coral??? even though the old mom n pop food stalls weren't exactly fine dining - there was at least a semblance of choice....
Posted by 190k (725 days ago)
Yes I agree, I have yet to go to the new food hall I did enjoy the wide choice now its just PC and CdC I prefer to go to Yuen Long for the choice again. Park'n rob is now changing to a Vision so they can rob us even more
Posted by asdf456 (692 days ago)
Keen to get a 2nd hand FV club membership for 3500
Posted by 190k (691 days ago)
Mine is for sale will accept $3500 will pm contact details
Posted by 190k (669 days ago)
asdf do you still want the membership??
Posted by poodleboy (658 days ago)
Hi all, I am selling my house at FVP and FPCC membership, if anyone is interesting , pls e-mail me and i can send pictures and more details to you.
The house has just renovated 3 years ago. however we have to moved to Kowloon to take care my mother .
Posted by josding (651 days ago)
is it far away from airport?
Posted by 190k (650 days ago)
30-35 minutes by car or taxi
Posted by chanting (588 days ago)
i am very keen to buy a 2nd hand club membership. please pm me
Posted by 190k (583 days ago)
Chanting I have replied to your PM today
Posted by kelili (581 days ago)
hi 190K, can you send me the info about the 2nd hand club membership as well, thanks!
Posted by 190k (579 days ago)
See the thread above about 165 days ago
Posted by bighead_cat (567 days ago)
I might be selling my club membership soon. We are thinking of moving to Hong Lok Yuen to be near the school. To be honest, I prefer FVP much better, love the lake and the centre ... only if it has an international school, we would have to leave. Getting the children to school from FVP to Hong Lok Yuen is a nightmare. Both of us work, we can't take the children to school, and school bus takes 75 mins, although it's only 15 mins drive away!