maid insists on holdiay. keep her or fire her?

I agree that the helper's son is graduating and she is keen to attend. However, the mention of spinal disc problems may be a lie. I asked for details of prior treatment and she said she had nothing to show. If one needs medical tratment, the treatment may not be one week but longer. When I asked more questions about this, she brought this up even less. she has never mentioned this at all recently so it may not be true She has been to the employment agency and told them in confidentiality that she did not plan to return and wanted a new job. She claimed her workload was too heavy. Yes, I leave home early but she has the entire day to herself. She is a very polite and nice person but has poor time management skills and is highly dependent. The day I ask her to manage on her own, there will inevitably be mistakes. I have made it clear to her that she is welcome to continue her employment or she can leave. The holiday is off. There is a 50% chance she won't come back. I don't see why we should go through stress The employment agency advised her to tell me honestly what the issue is. If she wants to leave, I cannot force her to work. That is her outlook. We are paying for her service. If she does not wish to provide that service, we will find a replacement. It amounts to harassment when these helpers tall stories and don't return from a holiday Agree that she will not she get my copy of the contract.

Thank you for your message. Sorry, an error in typing. I meant the helper claimed she had problem with her spinal disc not spinal cord. This helper is v quiet and does her work. She is polite and seems sincere but difficult to ascertain since she has not been very long with us. She has offered to pay for her own plane fare and said I could deduct one week's wages. I have been to the employment agency who will talk to her further. It seems she sometimes goes to the employment agency to chat with the owner. She sits there and mostly listens to the others. The agency owner said the helper once said she was tired and it was suggested to her that she could lie down if she was tired. But the helper declined saying she was on duty during the day and did not think it was appropriate for her take a break. Also, it seems helpers now can get a loan by showing their passports so it is irrelevant whether or not she has a copy of the employment contract. Helpers do need to show their employment contract at the Philippine consulate to get an exit permit which will enable them to board an outgoing plane from the Philippines. I was not aware of these rules. The helper may be genuine in seeking this holiday. The helper (and the agency owner mentioned this too in a separate chat with me), her family is very poor and they do rely on her income. Yes, you are right. Communication is important and will discuss this before rushing to make any decision If I still have any concerns, the agency h

Happy to hear from your follow up with clearer picture, if u can grant, help her in this period. The previous comments are just double sided for consideration towards 2 directions. Talk is the key to know, an the key to trust and care.

About the loan, there is a case still processing in court that a gang made use of helpers to get loan and causs financial loss. They were charged of money laundering and fraud. Some financial institutes have already tighten for such lesson learnt.

Thanks for your messages, Asiaxdreamy. As an aside, I wonder what happens to helpers to take a loan and run away. Does the government blacklist these people from working in HK? Do they get arrested at the airport? it's frustrating and annoying when this happens even though we try hard not to employ such ppl

Yes, there are cases for such interceptions. If they are not allowed to use the address ( yours) for unauthorized activities, that may constitute certain fraud related crimes. Always contribute by the good practice to reflect such happening to Immigration and Labour Department if there is evident that someone has make use of the current employment system for personal gain out of the contracted business ( FDH in this example). The Immigration would it on the personal record of such person and probably impose restriction or enforce repatriation upon the next arrival of such person. If the person flee to other country for other employment, this evidence is always welcome by other law enforcement agencies or other government on the condition of stay and consideration on migration as this can reflect whether such person has any adverse employment/citizenship record that may cause extra social burden for importing such labour. The above served to advise the employers on what can be done and to the employees on what should not be done.

Great, the same nasty one I have encountered... If you pay for the medical report, you should have one copy. If not, ask the medical agency or your employment agency for it's your right to prove that the employee is fit for this employment otherwise the agency or the employee might hide something for sparking off this employment. "However, 5 months later, the helper wants to take one week's leave in late March. she claims pur spinal cord hurts and she would like to have teatment. also, she wants to attend her son's graduation" Every similar season many mothers would like to attend their children's graduation ceremony. It is understood. If you can afford, allow her and if it is impossible to allow such, frankly tell her your difficulty. After all, a helper is come to help as you have the genuine need to hire one. Otherwise, you don't even need one. So, both sides should have mutual understanding of the difficulties and reasons. If graduation is a reason, then just honestly tell , there is no need for excuses like this and like that...blah blah blah. I am tired of such bullshit, sometimes just talk straight forward and gained better understanding. They may be shy to tell so they always create excuse that is so easily distinguished. "She said she had been treated previously for this complaint.. She had got an X-ray done and was given oral medicine and massages" If such a case, you may ask her to write down the date of complaint and what kind of treatment received. Warned

A few things that come to mind here.. 1) March is a popular time for their children's Graduation...they have Graduations for Kindy, Primary, Secondary, etc I have been told by a helper.... 2) You should get the medical report, it is the responsibility of the agency to give it to you. However, the reports are very basic ( BP, diabetes, etc...doubt it will show spinal disc issues) 3) She is medically insured by you in HK, she can be treated in HK...no reason for her to go back home for treatment, would be expensive for her, as most helpers do not get insurance in their home country. 4) If she has had treatment previously, she must have the DRs info and can go back there for treatment, they will have her record. 5) Your helper has already been given 1 set of the employment contract ( original) because when the visa is given, Immigration returns two sets...1 for the Employer and 1 for the helper. Do not give her the contract you have. She can get loans with her own contract anyway. Cannot understand why she is asking you for yours...That is the only document you have that she works for you. I have my previous helpers contracts with me till now... Do not give it to anyone! Finally, it's strange your helper is ready to resign to get this leave. I would be concerned of her motives..may be genuine but some of the information you have put here...I would be ready for anything....all the best!