hi folks,
i'm currently on a prowl for a new job. i'm only 6 months here.
so how sacred is the "EXPECTED SALARY" in our resumes? i'm only actually quoting for my industry standard salary. do companies here normally haggle for salaries? or do companies just totally ignore resumes of candidates who quote more than what they (companies) are willing to pay?
thanks.
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25 years as a Head Hunter and Executive Search firm owner. DONT PUT SALARY ON YOUR RESUME. A resume is to get you an interview nothing more. No company ever just hired a resume. Then in the interview use your own judgement. Again remember they know what they want to pay, beleive me on that count. I have been asked a million times "What should I say if they ask me what salary do I expect" Your answer should be " I am sure a fine company like yours would pay a fair salary. I would like to talk more about the duties I would have the opportunity to perform." That way the balls back in your court, understand
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wdc
18 yrs ago
florida tom... just wanted to get the opinion of a headhunting expert...
How are the job opportunities for technical people in Hongkong? Have been working in HK for almost 2 yrs as a senior engineer for an electronic/semicon company, and am considering to transfer to other companies in HK or in China. My contract will expire later middle of this year and am planning to get active in sending my cv to headhunters within a month or so...
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Leave salary column blank as advised by FloridaTom. Your first mission is to get an interview so that the employers can assess your capability.
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Completely agree. I think you always want the company to be the first to mention salary and to give you an indication of the range they are willing to pay. For some jobs it has not been until I had the actual intial offer, that I saw the figures - and then the negotiation really starts.
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vibe
18 yrs ago
Advice so far has been spot on. It's an old sales adage -- he who mentions a price first loses. Further, dodge it when asked in an interview. Use phrases like "I am hoping to receive a fair offer", "I'm sure we can come to a mutually beneficial agreement" or "I will have a better idea once I have a clearer understanding of what my duties will include", though I prefer more positivity.
When in salary negotiations, know that employers will always have a budget so you should aim to obtain nearest that as possible.
I read a great book recently entitled "Negotiating Your Salary: How To Make $1,000 A Minute" that I wish were suggested to me earlier on in my career. Here's a link on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1580087760?ie=UTF8&tag=varf-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1580087760
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kram
18 yrs ago
I recently had a telephone chat with a company. I wasnt interested in switching. But after 5 minutes into the chat, the person wanted to know my salary range to make sure they could 'afford' me.
Since they wanted a 'range', I gave them a number 20% higher. Maybe I should not have given any number at all in hindsight, but it wasnt an offer I was considering anyway ;)
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For a particular job type, the pay scale can be categorized into low, medium and upper level, so the interviewing assessment will be used to identify your worth.
During interview, when you share your accomplishment, the interviewers do consider other factors, like your job technical knowledge, leadership/project management, demonstrated behavior in different situations etc. Your strength/weakness will be identified and determined; suitable for the appropriate pay level if to be hired.
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thanks a lot for your candid inputs, guys. so it's pretty much like the US or any western country as far as salary nego is concerned. i was just testing the waters.
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In my case, I'm trying to switch to the private sector after working for several years at an NGO. I know that my pay level has been substantially lower than for an equivalent position elsewhere, but is it realistic to expect the jump in pay? Should I state an expected salary that is incrementally higher than my present one, or should I go for what I think I'm worth?
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you should ask for what the market says that position is worth. If they didn't think you had the relevant experience you would not be in the interview room with them, so please do not hold yourself back because of your earlier experience.
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Pincushion, for private sector, most of the bigger companies will refer to the market salary survey and also consider your yrs of experience to determine an offered salary for you. Your current NGO pay is not that relevent to the interviewers since it may be below the market value.
Check what is in the market. Even with the offered salary, you can still go the next step .. negiotiate if you want to push to the upper limit.
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What if the ad mentioned the salary range being offered? Is it still reasonable to negotiate maybe 20% higher than the maximum limit?
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Annebin, I was actually refering to Pincushion's case. From NGO to private sector(big corp), my estimation is that if the offer is at the lower-mid level pay range. So if pursue further, may get a bit more, yet within the company's pay scale. But all is subjective, as there are so many other factors involved when it comes to hiring/offer.
It's not just pay, but to look at the total compensation.
With regds to your question, I cannot give you an outright response as advert practices are different for each company and also may be influenced by ..
Job type>Market price>availabilty >ACE player??
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TC
18 yrs ago
PS: Is an EXPECTION the opposite of an INSPECTION? Just wondering.
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TC, it may not be in the English dictionary. This term is used in probability/statistics representation.
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