Wills in Hong Kong



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Posted by kiwimoa 15 yrs ago
I am in the process of getting a will. I have read other topics in regards to this and havent been able to get much information out of them.


I have heard that you can transfer a foreign will to Hong Kong, is this true? does anyone know the process involved with this? Are there any traps with this?


From what I have seen in forums, the common response from law firms is " you should have a will written here in HK...." . Are these law firms just looking for a bit of easy revenue or are they correct? I dont see them giving any other advice, other than offering their services at a cost.


Another thing which complicates any will to be written is the ownership of property here and overseas. What is best for people with property both in HK and in different countries?


Taxes. How do we avoid giving money to the HK government, money which has already been taxed by them. Are there ways around this? Trusts, run at a loss?


My other option is to have a will written here in HK, but it sounds like it is very expensive.


I would like some advice or the name/number where I can receive some advice, without having to commit to having a will written here in HK and without having to pay large sums of money....


At the end of the day, all I want is to ensure that my family will be looked after without too much red tape should I, or both myself and partner pass away.

Thanks in advance

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COMMENTS
associates 15 yrs ago
[UPDATE] Please note that fee quotes stated in historic postings may be out-of-date.


A will document should be a current (and continuing) statement of your wishes (and that of  your partner in a like document) to take effect on upon your death. However, a properly constructed will-making exercise is much more than simply chopping up the estate into equal bits and putting names inside empty blanks on forms.
 
Whoever constructs the will must have a thorough understanding of your assets, their location, the intended beneficiaries, the manner in which the estate is to be disposed (e.g. all at once or in progressive stages as is the case in most dispositions to under-aged children).
 
As such, the will practitioner with professional knowledge and experience is charged with the duty of creating an unambiguous, legally binding document and providing advice alongside such document explaining the consequences of the testator’s wishes.

Various taxation and structural matters will often be of concern, and a well versed will practitioner will be able to highlight and provide necessary professional advice in order to navigate around unnecessary taxation expenses incurred through a general unfamiliarity with the law.
 
Similarly, “Foreign Property” may be subject to the specific inheritance laws of that jurisdiction and should therefore be advised accordingly. Foreign property will require probate in the jurisdiction where the property is located, (“Probate” is a process whereby the will which relates to this property must be presented to the appropriate Court/Registry and proven as a valid and legally binding document).
 
Generally, every piece of property that resides in a foreign country whether it be a second house, a foreign bank account or some other interest is subject to the probate law of that country. As a result, the trustee/executor of one’s will have to probate such will in each jurisdiction where the person has property.
 
For example if one owned a ski chalet in Whistler, Canada, had a bank account in Switzerland and a vacation home on the Gold Coast in Australia, that person’s executor would be obliged to probate the will in each of the three jurisdictions. Depending on probate timing, such facts could cause significant delays since the original will must be presented in each case to obtain probate or resealing of probate as the case may be.
 
Due to this unique probate practice, many experienced will practitioners have opted for wills that are country specific; for example you may wish to have one will to deal with all of your properties in Hong Kong and a coincidental will that deals with all your property worldwide except in Hong Kong, this would be standard simple two document approach.
 
You may wish to add yet another will document that deals with a specific stock trading or bank account in other third specific jurisdiction. This illustrates the need for your will practitioner to be adequately familiar with the extent of your worldwide assets and be fully aware of the effects that those worldwide assets will have when the testor passes away.


It is always advisable to have a detailed conversation with an experienced and knowledgeable solicitor so that the above issues (as well as many more that would come up in such discussion) are dealt with appropriately.


A properly constructed will including the pre-meetings with the solicitors should cost US$1,000 to US$2,000, as such it is very good value when you consider that it is effectively the road map for the disposal of your life’s work (at least economically).
 
A cheap cut and paste or do it yourself will risks having all or part of the estate fall into intestacy due to ambiguity or fall a foul of tax law and does not do service to individual’s short and long term goals to pass on their legacy in a thoughtful and clear manner to benefit those they hold close.
 
Should you require further information please contact Weir & Associates6th Floor, Wings Building 110 Queen’s Road Central, Central, Hong Kong Phone: +852-2526-1767


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Shoe Girl 15 yrs ago
Wow, US$1,000 to US$2,000 for preparing a will. I think that is quite expensive. I know you can get them done for a lot cheaper than that. Most people just want to have simple wills done. We're not talking about Nina Wang here, I'm sure.

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kiwimoa 15 yrs ago
thanks for the info.

I have seen copies of friends wills and the odd one has had a cheaper generic will from a firm here in H.K.. Although these generic wills are cheap, once you start making changes to it, it then becomes "complex" as they call it and it then becomes just as expensive as having a customized will written.


We have property here and overseas, so it does become more complicated and therefore the generic wills dont cut the mustard.


Also there are other issues like taxes in different territories to deal with. In some countries one can set up a family trust, minimizing tax on money which has already been taxed. If your family were to have a marital split, then you can also protect funds that are protected by a trusts.


I have only just started looking into having a will written and so far it looks like you need a good lawyer who has experience in estate planning to make the most of your will and look after you family. Personally I do not think a generic/cheap will can do this.

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homie 15 yrs ago
I still don't understand how a will can cost so much when in the UK we were quoted 60 pound ($100us) for a will.

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kiwimoa 15 yrs ago
Oze_kid, if you find answers to your questions, can you post on here. thanks

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CribbJ 15 yrs ago
You get what you pay for. good advice is to fix the fee before you start and then there are no nasty surprises when the bill arrives! Reputable firms will often do business this way, this is not an area for short cuts or 'cheap' options, especially if Guardianship is an issue. 

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Loyd Grossman is Miss Venezuela 15 yrs ago
Just go to any solicitors and ask. I had a will prepared in the UK and then got it updated via a 'codecil' in Hong Kong - a kind of update - fater I got married. I intend to update again soon to say I wish my remains to stay in Hong Kong. This is for tax reasons. l'm a UK citizen and even though I have been out of the country for 15 years and now have no ties with the UK (bank accounts, club memberships, property etc), HM Government may still be able to scalp my estate for death duties in the event of this not being clear.

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Housemartin 13 yrs ago
I know a lawyer who does great Wills. He used to be a professor of Law also.

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