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tpc
19 yrs ago
I helped a Chinese ex-gf to buy a home in Guanghzou which we were planning to live in. I live in Shanghai and had sent money transfers to her, I have these receipts but the problem is that she never put me as a home owner (even though she had promised verbally). Now, since I broke up with her, she has refused to pay me back, insisting the house is hers and I freely gave her the money. What options do I have? The problem is I plan to get married with another girl and we will have a child this year, so unfortunately they will lose out.
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tpc
19 yrs ago
Thanks gdbill, I know it was a pretty stupid thing to do..anyway, do you have any recommendations on lawyers in GZ?
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Do you mean the receipt(s) from the bank? Do you have the original?
How much is the total sum? My partner may be able to take up the case.
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tpc
19 yrs ago
I have most receipts from the Bank and the pink copy they give. Unfortunately, the first 2 wire transfer originals was given to the ex-gf as proof of down payment. Total sum about 300K RMB. I have sent you another message with more details.
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Her name wasn't Nana was it? Oh man, this happened to me about 2.5 years ago. I helped buy a house too. We lived there and etc. and then about a year into it all, started getting pressure from the family about marriage and all. I basically stonewalled here/them because I really wanted to know exactly what I was in for. I didn't get receipts or anything and I lost only a few thousand dollars, because actually her aunt put up the deposit (it was around 100,000 RMB) and I fronted a few thou' and the girlfriend "supposedly" fronted another few thou'...anyway, things went sour when I didn't show any sign of getting on with an engagement and then she changed her tune fairly quickly. Basically "WE" decided to live seperately for a bit, then that turned into, "I really want us to date other people" then that turned into" Why should I pay that money back to you? You should pay my mother for cooking for us all that time!" Hey,wasn't my idea that she live with us (That was actually one of the MAIN reasons leading to our downfall; no way in H_LL am I goin' to have a mother n' law living with me endlessly)...so, lesson learned.
I called her up one last time and told her, "For all that I did for you, what exactly did you do for me? I will be sure EVERYONE knows about what you did, and the only gwailo you'll be able to hook up with will either be brain-dead or senile." The last I heard, she was spotted in the airport with some old balding, retired fat s.o.b. who DID seem brain-dead, according to sources! ;)
Cheers! and sorry for the loss. Good luck with the new one on the way!
Michael
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tpc
19 yrs ago
Yeah, this is the hardest lesson to learn. Hopefully, I'll be able to salvage something. Thanks for everyone's advice.
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TC
19 yrs ago
Incidentally, what nationality are you? I'm just wondering because isn't there something that prevents foreign ownership of property in China?
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except that you have to live in the country for a minimum of 1 year (recent adaptation of the law, sept 2006)an effort of the central government to cool down housing prices in the big cities, but plenty of ways around that...;-)) as always
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In this particular case, it doesn't matter what type of govt policies are in placed... He was never an owner, name was never entered onto the deed... IMO, you are really S.O.L with especailly no written mutal agreement of any type... Even with bank transfer receipt means nothing... All she had to say is you gave it to her... Furthermore, It's China, the legal system is really something else!!!!
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oben
19 yrs ago
I wonder if you are still in trouble, why not to consult a lawyer in Shanghai. By the way, I suggest you to mail your case at peter.mufei@gmail.com
I believe he can provide you the right way to be out.
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don't bother with the lawyer - unless you have something IN WRITING that this was a loan rather than just a gift (or payment for sex - sorry - "expenses incurred in the relationship", as she could claim, and a judge could reasonably conclude. Many wealthy Chinese men provide their mistresses with apartments).
I suggest IF you get a lawyer involved, you will end up loosing 300k plus lawyers fees on both sides. You do the math and assess the risk.
BEWARE, there are many lawyers on this site scouting for business.
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