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shawna
19 yrs ago
i just arrived in shanghai from france and i would like to employ a maid living in the philippines what should i do?
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Contact employment agencies or ask your friends if their helper could refer someone from the Philippines.
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TC
19 yrs ago
I'm not that sure the mainland allows for foreign domestic helpers - other than for members of the diplomatic corps. Whilst I don't have any first-hand experience I'm fairly sure I've come across that before.
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I have already chosen a maid from the philippines but will the chinese gov't allow her to work in shanghai as my helper or only the chinese are allowed?
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could you recommend a good agency?
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Shawna, I'm not sure about full time domestic help. What I know of is they will allow private tutors but only on 6 months visa.
I'm scheduled to meet our Labour Attache here sometime next week, I'll ask him if you could wait.
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Taps
19 yrs ago
shawna is looking for domestic helper, LMOPO, are you ill.
Maybe Xpat could help you.
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yes pls souffle queen, thanks much for doing so! my helper doesn't have a diploma though so I don't know if she can avail of the 6 months visa. We really want her to work with us so if you could help we would greatly appreciate it.
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Shawna, don't mwntion it. I'll make some phone calls tomorrow and will send you a private message for updates.
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No visas for Filipinos can be extended in China except work and student visas.
Also, it is not possible for an employer to term a domestic helper as a "tutor" and get away with it. You need to have proven academic qualifications, verifiable experience and prior employment outside of China with the people in China you will work for. Very, very few visas are granted for tutors.
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Till now F visas for Filipinos can be extended, in case they didn't stay beyond the 1 year period (According to Chinese visa policy, F visa holders can stay in China for consecutive 1 year from the recent entry into China mainland.)
For Filipinos, L visas can be converted to F visas and F visas can be extended.
http://www.cn-visa.com/s3.asp
http://www.cn-visa.com/s3.asp
But it is only till now. I have to say it's getting harder...
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I'll try to make this clear:
1. You need academic qualifications that entitle you to be a tutor. Are you saying that you are going to tutor in biology? The authorities in China will never allow this.
2. You have to have work expertience.
3. You need to have worked with the family you will be living with BEFORE they came to China.
Even then, the Public Security Bureau will not allow Filipinas to come and work for a family.
I understand your concern and desire for a new experience, but the PSB is not very keen in allowing foreign domestic staff into China -- especially from Indonesia, the Philippines or Africa. Is it fair? Probably not. But it's the reality.
Why don't you call the Philippines embassy in China (Guangzhou) and ask them what they think your chances are? The staff in the Philippines embassy in Guangzhou are very nice and they'll explain to you that you have almost no chances.
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Actually, we have a nanny from the Philippines and even though our family is on a diplomatic visa, it was extremely difficult / problematic to get her approved for a visa even though the law specifically allows us to have any domestic employees we desire.
Other families have virtually zero chance. The Chinese government -- for right or wrong -- is of the opinion that with a population of over 1.3 billion, the vast majority severely underemployed or even unemployed, they don't need foreign domestic helpers from poorer countries to come and take jobs from Chinese people. Even in the States, you'd be hard pressed to get a visa and we don't have 1.3+ billion at least half of which live in severe poverty. What do you expect to happen in China?
I'm not saying the Chinese government is right ... or wrong. I'm only saying that it's the reality for now.
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So you think that the Philippine embassy staff you spoke with and told you you had zero chances don't know what they are talking about?
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gdbill,
I am desperately hoping you can give me some tips. We recently arrived Shanghai and are members of the diplomatic corps. We really want to bring our domestic help who is currently in the Philippines. Our 3 year-old daughter has a medical 2 clearance because of her severe allergies to peanut, soy, sesame, egg and all dairy. Our nanny is also a certified trained nutritionist and worked in a hospital for 20 years.
We have been told that no one can legally bring in a nanny to work in China. However, since we are diplomats, is there an exception? You mention the law allows us to have domestic employees we desire. Can you show me where I can find that? How can I make our case to the Chinese officials and where can we start? No one we have spoken with seems to know these answers.
Is there a way we can communicate directly instead of through the forum?
Thanks!
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You can send me a forum message through the "Control Panel" and I'll give you my e-mail address.
The process works something like this: You have the embassy send a "diplomatic note" to the Foreign Affairs Ministry stating that you will be hiring an overseas nanny. Once the MFA gets this note, they will deal with the other Chinese governmental departments involved to make sure they are all in line and approve the necessary documents. It took us about 4 weeks to get MFA feedback, but I have known others who have waited thrice as long and then others who waited a little bit less than we did. Once we got the reputn memo from the MFA, we went to the labor bureau and then the PSB. Our nanny was already in China and after having the medical exam we took her to the PSB with the medical exam results and the work permit issued by the labor bureau. The next day we returned to get her passport and inside was her residence permit.
One thing to note is that the nanny will not get a diplomatic corps ID card usually (though I know some people in the Philippines embassy who have domestic help that do) so you need to educate her a little bit about what to do if she has problems and what to do / who to call if there are problems at home when you are out.
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Thank you! I will email you directly. I am so glad to hear there is a solution. It does sound extremely complicated though.
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gdbill,
I can't figure out how to send you a forum message from the control panel. I scrolled for your username in the dropdown menu but couldn't find you. I do have some questions that I want to ask you directly. Thanks.
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Not extremely complicated, but not exactly easy either. It's more difficult for major corporations to get their expat staff on work visas.
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Hi gdbill,
No one here at the Consulate is familiar with the process. I sent an email to you, but I'm not sure if you have received it. Looking forward to hearing from you.
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