Questions on MMR vaccination

My baby wll be turning one soon and will be due for his shots. Is there still controversy surrounding the MMR shot/link with autism? Or are most of these vax mercury-free now? Pros and Cons for the all-in-one versus the separate shots would be welcome. Thanks.

To summarize our recommendations:


- All vaccinations are mercury free


- MMR: The controversy has convincingly been proven to be untrue, and the vaccination should be given as a combined ‘MMR’ vaccination after the first birthday. Most parents will opt for this to be done at 15 months


- Combined vaccinations are more effective and give less side-effects.


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i tend to be very very wary of vaccines as well. i organised a conference on the potential risks of vaccinations, and the material i came across was quite shocking.



so i'd agree with ex yogi's attitude.

Tend to agree with the Goddess Kali and exyogi to some extent. As a parent of a severely disabled child I have met many families with disbaled children over the years, several of which are convinced their childs disability stems from a vaccine, and not always the MMR. My children have had their vaccines, but I have opted for single doses where available, and even the 'normal' childhood vaccines I have reduced the number given at once and given them over a longer period of time so they are not 'overloaded' too much. To the OP read as much information as you can, make the choice that you feel is best for your family, but remember that their is a small risk whichever way you go.

exyogi, if the methods you advocate have been clearly proven to work so much better, why aren't people flocking to them? You would have us believe that there is a great conspiracy to keep the rest of us in the dark? It just seems a bit much to fathom.



"No one in my family will be getting appendicitis. cancer, diabetes, autism, gall stones, IBS, or any other "modern ailment." "


I think you may be unpleasantly surprised in the future.


"I can state this with such assurance because I know that diseases don't just randomly happen - they have causes."


Of course they have causes. Not all are know though. And just because you know the cause doesn't mean the cure is apparent.




"Is that a "no" you (and cara) won't be posting references supporting your views?"


Quite frankly I think the burden of proof is still on you. Starlionblue2 and Cara could simply pick up any number of respected medical journals to find scientific evidence. You are still on the level of quacks trying to make a buck.



"My intention for submitting the two links was to dispel Starlionblue2's naiveté regarding "conventional" medical study being about how the body works. Regardless of how the body woks, the BUSINESS of conventional medicine is about how to push (legal) drugs for each and every ailment. How the body works, how to heal (or protect) the body is an irrelevant matter."


Funny that. All of your sources seem to be pushing a book or something else for payment. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?

hot topic. pity i don't have more time.


anyways, i organised a scientific forum with experts on the topic, but can't post links as they are all in italian. iw ould just say that vaccines are not so innocous as pharmaceutical companies would have one believe. case in point, read what CD says.


yes sometimes life is full of choices where you need to choose betwen the devil and the deep blue sea.


my mum didn't vaccinate any of us (4 kids) against polio, as one of her neighbours kids got the disease after the vaccination.....(this was more than 40 yrs ago). none of us got polio.


as for doctors being infallible or not i think that would be another long heated thread.....

"my mum didn't vaccinate any of us (4 kids) against polio, as one of her neighbours kids got the disease after the vaccination.....(this was more than 40 yrs ago). none of us got polio."


You logic is backwards. You never got it because you probably were never exposed to the disease. Why? There are few polio cases around. Why? Because near universal inoculation stops the disease from spreading! I would also submit that a lot has changed in 40 years when it comes to vaccines.



"anyways, i organised a scientific forum with experts on the topic, but can't post links as they are all in italian. "


I can read that. Post away.



"as for doctors being infallible or not i think that would be another long heated thread....."


Of course they're not but unless I find a better option, I'll take the doctors.




"Now ...... for a bit of humorous satire (pointed at the "modern medicine" that cara holds so highly in her opinion) have a look at "Why Doctors Are Idiots: 150 Years of Disatrous Advice On Children's Health (satire)" .....

http://www.newstarget.com/022389.html"


Most of the examples are indeed true. But where is the article listing all the triumphs of medicine? I daresay it would be much longer.

- The first example, about hand washing. Now handwashing is routine. Did doctors perhaps not accept the evidence? Are they still resisting? No, because scientific evidence pointed them at the right answer.

- Inoculation and sanitation. No more cholera or typhus epidemics in modern nations. No more flu that decimates populations. No more bubonic plague.

- Drastically lower infant and mother mortality due to everything from c-sections to induction to ultrasounds.

- Organ transplantation.

- Cholesterol control drugs.

- Ulcer treatments.

- Trauma procedures in emergency rooms have saved countless lives.

- Blood and plasma transfusions.

- Dyalysis machines.

- Laser treatments for cancer.

- Chemotherapy.

- ...


I could go on. But my point is that while modern medicine has blundered and will continue to do so, it has also made an unparalleled contribution to modern longevity and quality of life.

I have been away for awhile and my oh my! I wasn't expecting this many replies and didn't want to stir up a big debate (although a little drama here and there is inevitable w/such a topic). I do appreciate hearing all sides to this. I'm trying to make an informative decision and will try to choose what is best for my child. Thanks everyone and Happy New Year.

I have been away for awhile and my oh my! I wasn't expecting this many replies and didn't want to stir up a big debate (although a little drama here and there is inevitable w/such a topic). I do appreciate hearing all sides to this. I'm trying to make an informative decision and will try to choose what is best for my child. Thanks everyone and Happy New Year.