Posted by
evildeeds
18 yrs ago
Well they halved wine duty last year and what actually happened? Nothing, nil, nada. The proof is in the pudding, but I doubt we'll see it - the corp's will suck it up like they did last year - it wont get passed on I'm sure.
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yes - if anyone can recommend a NZ wine importer please do!!
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We will never see the price reduction in the restaurants. The price of wines will go up and the excuse this time will be "our operation costs have increased" before it was, "we had prebudget stock". Restaurants just seem to gouge as much as they can and still offer poor service.
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While I agree with bob the builder about the prices in restaurants likely not going down, there is no excuse for going to restaurants with poor service (and poor food). This are simply supported by customers. If people insist on going there they'll stay in business regardless.
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I agree, and until recently I have been involved in the restaurant business in HK. The industry here is so disappointing, but it does reflect what the general HK population expect.
I can guarantee that restaurants will not be droppping their alcohol prices, just in the same way the 10% service charge will never be passed on to the staff as the gratuity it is seen as by the customer.
All it will do is give the owners of these restaurants more money to open more poorly run restaurants in an already flooded market.
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Hi,
Does this mean that you can bring unlimited wine in to Hong Kong when arriving off a flight or would it need to freighted into the country?
Thanks
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"I agree, and until recently I have been involved in the restaurant business in HK. The industry here is so disappointing, but it does reflect what the general HK population expect."
I don't go out a huge amount (maybe 1-2 times/week) but I must say I don't really see a huge difference compared to other big cities. There are lots of crap places with a few gems thrown in. In my humble opinion most people just can't tell the difference between decent food and great food.
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OOOH, this sounds like good news for us. We'll be shipping a container of household goods, clothes, etc from Sweden to HK later this year and were sad to have to give away all our cellar as I thought the import duty would make it too expensive...
Does this mean as private relocators, we can import it, declare it and not pay tax on it?
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"OOOH, this sounds like good news for us. We'll be shipping a container of household goods, clothes, etc from Sweden to HK later this year and were sad to have to give away all our cellar as I thought the import duty would make it too expensive..."
There's an easy way around it anyway. When we packed up the house our movers looked at our collection of bottles and simply asked if they should mark them as "kitchen utensils".
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oh, now you guys telling me - we had to give so much nice wine and champagne away to my sister in law... damn.... anyone has any good wine importers by the way?
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Your movers are unbelievably stupid and unprofessional for giving such a piece of advice. As you know, this is smuggling and YOU are the one responsible for the declaration, not the mover.
It could have caused a long detention of ALL the goods in that container by the customs and excise department and a heavy fine to you, not to the mover.
Next time, I would recommend you to take advise from true professionals."
Give me some credit. I am quite well aware of all the consequences. The advice was not given by the mover's customer service staff. They would never have said that sort of thing. The question was asked by the box packers. The question of responsibility is very clear in my mind since I signed the declaration.
I would also like to note at this point that I only said they asked, not that we acted on the advice.
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I guess the last point depends very much on the quantity as well - if not in principle, then certainly in practice. Big difference between having a case of wine put together with some other things and importing a cellar of several hundred bottles (I recall someone bringing a whole (climate controlled) container with their wine collection into Singapore a few year back - obviously fully declared).
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"I guess the last point depends very much on the quantity as well - if not in principle, then certainly in practice. Big difference between having a case of wine put together with some other things and importing a cellar of several hundred bottles (I recall someone bringing a whole (climate controlled) container with their wine collection into Singapore a few year back - obviously fully declared)."
I agree. The law is the law of course, and breaking it is wrong in principle. But it's not like someone bringing in 20 bottles undeclared on a single occasion is really going against the intent of the law, which was to regulate the market for spirits and wine and get revenue from it. In other words, customs is less likely to care about two dozen bottles for private use than a five hundred bottle collection. The former will not have any noticeable effect on the market and be a negligible revenue loss for customs. Besides, chasing down every last case would be much more costly than any revenue derived from fines.
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axptguy38,-
'There's an easy way around it anyway. When we packed up the house our movers looked at our collection of bottles and simply asked if they should mark them as "kitchen utensils".'
Anyone reading this would be forgiven for assuming that this is what you were suggesting I do. Nowhere did you say that it would be a very unwise move which could result in fines or worse.
We have a responsibility to each other here on this ADVICE forum to not lead each other astray or suggest illegal sollutions to each others positions.
Anything and everything we import will be declared as I would rather have to pay $1,000 in tax than $50,000 in fines.
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As well as this, I would run the risk of my residency being revoked andnot being allowed to live in HK. This would have the dirrect consequence of my husband having to find another job in another country so that our family can live together...not a risk worth taking in my humble opinion.
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I seem to have created some controversy. Sorry about that. I leave it up to Ed to decide whether anything should be deleted. If I have inadvertently broken forum rules, I apologize to one and all.
I will say this, however: Do you really think that someone would read a comment about shipping regulations on this board and not seek a second opinion? Anyone following legal advice from a web forum should come to their senses and speak to professionals. Come here for alternatives, not trustworthy legal advice.
"We have a responsibility to each other here on this ADVICE forum to not lead each other astray or suggest illegal sollutions to each others positions."
I think you're underestimating the maturity of our members. They can make their own decisions based on these posts and professional advice. Knowing about options which are perfectly viable (if technically illegal) is not, in my opinion, outside the scope of comments here.
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