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ldsllvn
18 yrs ago
great!! we are going to Macao for the night - leaving our kids first time EVER! just to be stuck in Macao with no ferries!!!! Am so upset, will have to think about going, but will lose the money - non refundable etc...
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yes, we are supposed to be going tonight - am worried about getting back tomorrow - am thinking of trying to get early ferry tomorrow morning and hope like hell that T8 is not up yet... :(
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The predicted track shifted overnight and is now much closer to HK (yesterday it was predicted to veer further north). At this point it looks like it is going to hit quite close. See here http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/currwx/tc_pos.htm
Predicted wind speed tomorrow at 0800 is 139km/h, which is above T8, but at that point the centre will still be offshore. In any case there is a possibility of a T9 or T10.
"yes, we are supposed to be going tonight - am worried about getting back tomorrow - am thinking of trying to get early ferry tomorrow morning and hope like hell that T8 is not up yet... :("
Tomorrow you may well find yourselves stuck in Macau.
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thanks for the update axptguy38, this is definitely not good news for me. My family is flying back to HK tomorrow afternoon. With winds at 139 kmph, i wonder if the Boeing 747 will be allowed to land.
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cd
18 yrs ago
I think the only T10 while I've been in HK was typhoon Sam in Aug 1999. we named our newborn son after it!!!
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"My family is flying back to HK tomorrow afternoon. With winds at 139 kmph, i wonder if the Boeing 747 will be allowed to land."
Hardly. That's way beyond limits. Your family's timing is unfortunate. However it won't be that strong at HK for very long.
"I think the only T10 while I've been in HK was typhoon Sam in Aug 1999. we named our newborn son after it!!!"
Interestingly, the warning system is not a strength scale. It's "just" a warning system that more or less corresponds to the strength of the typhoon. In US terms, Nuri will probably be the equivalent of a Category 2 Hurricane. Consider that the Saffir-Simpson "category" scale goes up to 5. If we got Cat 5 wind strengths it would still be a T10 warning despite much stronger winds. I guess once everyone is indoors there's not much more you can do. ;)
For those who care (you meteo geeks ;) ) I think Nuri will hit 12 on the Beaufort scale.
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To be honest even the last typhoon ten was a bit of a let down, there was one about 15-20 years ago, Typhoon Ellen I think was its name cant be sure, that was a nasty typhoon, My dad took me driving in it down Perkins road in Jardine's Lookout, and at one point the car actually went air borne. We were bricking it.
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Thats true i dont recall a T9 at all for the last 8 years i ve been here, but apparently there was a T10 back in 99- or 98.
all we need is to store food at home, hug your sofa, put a nice movie and voila! see you monday
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"To be honest even the last typhoon ten was a bit of a let down,"
That's cause T10 can mean "just" the equivalent of a Cat 2 Hurricane. "No big deal" according to my wife the ex-Florida resident.
Having said that, T10 can mean the equivalent of a Cat 4 or 5. That's when the roofs start flying.
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yeah and the 98-99 one was FA, there have been others in the past which have been far worse in terms of winds and rain on the main part of the island that didn't make signal nine or ten.
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190k
18 yrs ago
Yep Ellen was the last really big one in 1983, before that was Wendy ( I think that was the name I was only 6-7 years old at the time) in the late sixties, that one sucked airconditioners out. I remember seeing the shell Petrol station sign flying by our window on the 10 floor.
Nuri has the makings of a nasty one but its not like the old days you should not need to stock up on food for more than two days. In the past it took several days for food system to get up and running after a storm hence the big stock piles. bet you once number 8 goes up you won't be able to get a table at a yam cha rest. and the karaokes will be full
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So what's the latest with Nuri? THe observatory's website is still showing the report as of 11 am today. I am supposed to fly to Bangkok tomorrow. I hope that if it's going to hit, it will hurry up and come and leave so I can get my flight tomorrow night.
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"So what's the latest with Nuri? THe observatory's website is still showing the report as of 11 am today. I am supposed to fly to Bangkok tomorrow. I hope that if it's going to hit, it will hurry up and come and leave so I can get my flight tomorrow night."
If you look at the track http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/currwx/tc_pos.htm you can see that it looks to make landfall quite close to HK. This late in the game the forecast is pretty accurate. Your flight looks iffy but the only way to know is to check the airline website and call the airline tomorrow.
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190k
18 yrs ago
Yeh the rain bands are starting to get close as well. Don't hold your breath for flying tomorrow. Looks like this one will be very close and strong, the South China Sea surface temperature has been very warm this last week 28-30 celcius
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wasn't it 'York' in 99 that was the last T10? people killed i believe...
http://www.weather.gov.hk/informtc/90s/york/yorkrp.htm
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The track forecast has changed again. Nuri is now predicted to come even closer to HK
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it keeps on shifting - closer then away again, now closer again - will see tomorrow i guess - managed to reschedule Macao for next week (v nice of them to change it even tho it says non-changable, non-refundable) - phew!
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Yeah I remember that one, don't remember anyone dying, though I don't dispute they may have, but it can honestly get a lot worse and I have seen it worse for signals which are not as high as York went. The only typhoon I have ever really bricked it was ellen back in the eighties, but then again I dont tend to walk around the harbour front or go surfing in Big Wave Bay, which some people feel the need to do when it hits signal 10.
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cd
18 yrs ago
No York didn't get put up to a T10, although it was a longer lasting storm than Sam and did more damage. There was about 7 or 8 typhoons in 1999.
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Typhoon edging towards HK
21-08-2008 HKT 17:07
The Observatory says the number three strong wind signal could be issued this evening as Typhoon Nuri edges closer to Hong Kong. The number one standby signal has been in force since yesterday evening. The storm - which is is now more than 300 kilometres southeast of Hong Kong - is forecast to move west-northwest towards the coast of Guangdong. The weather is expected to deteriorate tonight, with strong winds and heavy rain over the next couple of days.
looks like the typhoon is going to hit VERY VERY VERY near to HK if not directly. Let's see where it goes!!!
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Nula
18 yrs ago
Thought this was weird below is the progress of Sam in 1999 the last direct hit - look at the dates
20th August 1999 (Friday)
Stand-by Signal Number 1 was hoisted at 16:15 HKT on 20th August
21st August 1999 (Saturday)
Stand-by Signal Number 1 remained hoisted all day.
22nd August 1999 (Sunday)
Strong Wind Signal Number 3 was hoisted at 02:30 HKT on 22nd August.
NW Gale Signal Number 8 was hoisted at 12:30 HKT on 22nd August.
Typhoon Sam made direct hit on HK.
SW Gale Signal Number 8 was hoisted at 18:30 HKT on 22nd August.
China Airlines Flight 642 crashed at Chek Lap Kok while attempting to land in high cross-wind at 18:45
23rd August 1999 (Monday)
Strong Wind Signal Number 3 was hoisted at 03:50 HKT on 23rd August.
Red Rainstorm Warning issued 05:15
Black Rainstorm Warning issued 06:13
Amber Rainstorm warning issued 12:00
All Tropical Cyclone Signals were lowered at 21:00 HKT on 23rd August.
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Nula
18 yrs ago
The other weird thing is that it looks like the same course as Nuri.
http://www.drdisk.com.hk/sam.htm
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190k
18 yrs ago
Lets hope it acts like Sam and goes no higher than T8
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cd..read the link i posted...york was a 10
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yeah I thought it was a 10.
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cd
18 yrs ago
Sorry, I stand corrected, but I did have a 2 day old baby at the time so the mind was probably a bit muddled...he's still very proud of the fact that he was named after a typhoon.
just read the report,,,it did say it was the wettest one on record.
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"Nuri will be rather close to Hong Kong this afternoon and tonight with a chance of direct hit to Hong Kong."
Paint a bullseye on IFC2 and have a great Typhoon Day!
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While we're on the subject of typhoons, does anybody know why, when the typhoon is a T1, the "T" is the right way up but after that it's upside down?
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I have lived here off and on (more on than off...!) for a little over 36 years and have never really experience a bad typhoon.
The honey of them all was Rose that came through in late 1971. She was responsible for 25 per cent of all shipping losses world wide in that quarter.
Ellen in 1983 was a bad one . I missed it I was in the UK...!
The 10 in 1999 was no fun. The ironic thing then was that the following weekend we had gales that were stronger in places around Sai Kung than the winds during the 10!
I come from the Highlands of Scotland and a good 120 mph north westerly gale is fairly common...! So no sweat - I hope as it is quite nasty where I live and it is just past 10 am 0n the 22nd!
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190k
18 yrs ago
"T1" the T does not represent Typhoon. In the past (and still) the observatory would hoist a signal on its mast in the middle of TST so all could see the typhoon signal. Just so happens that the T1 signal looks like an upright T. the T3 signal is the sign inverted. The T8 signals are different for the different wind directions. So that is way you may hear reports that a Typhoon signal has been HOISTED or LOWERED.
http://www.weather.gov.hk/informtc/tcsignal.htm
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FKKC
18 yrs ago
And if you go outdoor, you can also be hit by any flying or falling objects.
But it's fun to go along the harbour watching the waves!!! Not advisable but a rare adventure...
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Totally agree PG, flying objects, and falling trees are the main concern:
my first T8 Typhoon was in August 93, a man was decapitated when a flying piece of metal hit his car's front window.
One of the strongest I perceived was T9 Victor in early August 97, we were living in the NT Tuen Mun side and centenary trees in our house compound were falling like flies.
There was a dreadful accident in Stanley, 2 children playing on the rocks in front of the restaurants falled in the water, an heroic man who was having lunch on the terrace of the then Stanley French and now Boat house dived to the rescue and drowned during the process.
After that 99 was the big year: Sam late August a T8 in Hong Kong but a T9 in Macau was a highly destructive typhoon for the city trees, uprooting many century old ones, including extensive damages in the HK Park.
We were stuck in Macau, but upon returning to HK, our couple friends found on their roof top (Hillborough Court, old Peak road, last floor of the Royal tower) a pot with tree, was weighted over 50KG and apprently flew down from a Peak's garden...
Sam was followed a few weeks later mid September by York, that when up to T10, it was not perceived as destructive as the one before also because there was little trees left to destroy.
The piece of glory I do remember is the roof pool of some acquaintances in DB flying off their roof top, over a lane, to land and flood the roof of the house accross the street.
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Have donned a poncho and luckily a tightly drawn strung baseball cap just getting back a bit ago returning from a walk into Sai Kung town about 20 minutes each way. There has been quite a blow so far many clumps of branches down and some smaller trees, lots of damage to sign boards, and many rattling corregated metal roof tops waiting to peel away. Hold on to your britches folks.
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Here in Repulse Bay the air is still. The HK Observatory bulletin says that Nuri is over the waters off Sai Kung and is expected to hit the Eastern New Territories. Does this mean that HK Island might not be directly hit? There is also a mention of possible change in wind direction....
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cd
18 yrs ago
Well I'm about 4 miles from Sai Kung, and according to the website, Nuri is about 20km off Sai Kung, but the trees are hardly moving around here and haven't been for a while, and very light rain. It was at its worst at around 11.30 here.
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190k
18 yrs ago
Wait till the wind changes. Sai Kung and South Side are protected from the northerly winds. Once it passes southside willbe exposed to the southerlies and all the rain with it. Sai Kung could still be protected by the hills
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cd
18 yrs ago
Still no wind at Sai Kung, but swarming with dragonflys, there are thousands in all directions as far as I can see. strange.
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it's the eye!
As the eye of Nuri is passing directly over Hong Kong,
there may be a temporary lull lasting from a few minutes to
several hours over the eastern part of the territory. This
will be followed by a sudden resumption of violent winds
from a different direction.
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Yeah I was just gonna post that Wiz Bang. Watch for the second act in a few hours.
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Is that it? I know the eye is over us, but this morning wasn't that bad. Am I jinxing myself and the next bit will be massive?
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It is massive. The wind on south side just went from almost nothing to "whoa!" in like 20 minutes.
"I know the eye is over us, but this morning wasn't that bad. "
All depends on where you are. Since the storm passed north of the Island, south side was in the lee of the island. I'm guessing NT was worse. Now that the "other side" of the storm has come along, we're getting pounded good.
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190k
18 yrs ago
Yep Tuen Mun was bad this morning really strong northerlies waiting for the eye to pass just to the south then we will be hit by the southerlies which might be stronger due to no buffering by hills. Waglan Island went from 9 kmh to 126 kmh in an hour
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If you live on the island, unless you are right by the harbour 9 times out of 10 they are let downs, as I said the only time I have ever really bricked it on the Island was Typhoon Ellen and apparently someone else was saying that was back in 1983. Don't get me wrong there have been bad storms since, but given one can reasonably expect signal 10 to be positively nasty, they have all been let downs in comparison since.
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yes in Sai Kung also and just past 10pm now and the wind is the strongest its been all day !!!
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What is it with the dragon flies? They went nuts here (Clearwater Bay). Is it some atmospheric pressure thingie they've tuned into that's brought them out in a huge herd this evening? They often hover over the pool but tonight there have been 200+ swarming in the garden much higher - and far more noisily - than usual.
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Ed
18 yrs ago
Looks pretty bleak in Hong Kong http://www.discoverhongkong.com/eng/interactive/webcam/ig_webc_petr.jhtml
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Top of the morning and a very calm day.
Personally I love this kind of intense weather. Where I grew up the weather is terribly bland. No big storms, no big thunderstorms, no nothing.
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People really should not go outside during a big blow. Most typhoons there are deaths....there is always something dangerous flying around, especially if you live near a building site IT CAN BE LIFE-THREATENING.
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Indeed. It's not the wind that is dangerous, it's the stuff blowing IN the wind that is dangerous. A branch or a brick to the head will kill you.
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I read a piece in the SCMP last year which said there are more species here than in the whole of Europe, or something like that. I must say I do like them. Unlike sandflies and mozzies they just flit about looking pretty without savaging me.
My pool resembled the dragonfly equivalent of Jonestown this afternoon - jungly green and full of dead bodies. I'm wondering if it is a seasonal thing that the dragonflies died en masse (though I don't remember this in previous years) or if it was connected to the T9.
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190k
18 yrs ago
Maybe due to the rains the mate on mass and took advantage of the lull in the eye of the storm. Don't they have to be coupled together at teh time the eggs are laid on the water surface?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly
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