LPG on private cars- it's time.



ORIGINAL POST
Posted by Tune 15 yrs ago
Has anybody ever installed LPG on his car ?

This question was asked on here about 7 years ago.

Let's get this thread up and running again.


The government is profiting from our misery.

Most civilised countries adopt the conversion of LPG as a fuel for private cars as a matter of principle. In fact some governments provide grants for those wishing to convert to LPG.

Everyone is a winner- less emissions and cheaper bills at the pump, everyone that is except the government.


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COMMENTS
Tune 15 yrs ago
Furthermore- the installation process is simple and relatively cheap. Contrary to belief it does not require the removal of the engine.The government believes in it as it continues to use LPG in minibuses and taxis.

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Ktong 15 yrs ago
How did your conversion to LPG on your car go? How have you found it performance wise since you made the change?

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Tune 15 yrs ago
I have not done so myself, yet. However, all of my friends in NZ have and my brother in the UK has done it also. All say that the performance has improved. This seems to be the case worldwide.

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Tune 15 yrs ago
I have not done so myself, yet. However, all of my friends in NZ have and my brother in the UK has done it also. All say that the performance has improved. This seems to be the case worldwide.

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190k 15 yrs ago
Tune you hit the nail on the head, Govt will lose revenue through sales tax of petroleum. The conversion of PLBs and Taxis started in about 1993-1994 if I am correct was was supposed to be a trial for a full conversion of most vehicles including big busses and light goods vehicles. Thats a bloody long trial eh I agree its about time that conversions for Private cars and light goods vehicles goes ahead. The bods at Transport Department still think that diesel is dirtier than petrol and has converted its entire fleet to petrol only with exception of some larger vehicles that need to run on diesel. Euro III and above diesel engines if properly maintained and running on low/zero sulphur diesel are far cleaner than petrol engines with all thier onverters etc


If the Govt does allow for cars and light goods vehicles to use LPG then don't expect to pay the same taxis and PLBs there will be some sort of discrimination at the bowsers with different tax rates. They will now claim that the infrastructure is not set up yet to handle cars on LPG, just look at the long ines outside servos for LPG without cars and light trucks???

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Tune 15 yrs ago
Is it not time that the situation changed: LPG facilities introduced into fuel stations? Are the government missing the big picture here or simply choosing to? Are the steps taken so far to introduce electric cars merely token gestures?

LPG may not be the absolute future, yet it is a step in the right direction in that it is cleaner and cheaper.


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BumpyDog 15 yrs ago
the governemnt is sitting on reserves of HK$ 1.2 trillion. do they really need the revenue from sale of petroleum?

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spurtio 15 yrs ago
"It's unfair to jack-up the annual license fee as some people only drive occasionaly."


Really? Why? Anyone who only uses a car occasionally doesn't need one in Hong Kong. What do they need it for occasionally?


With the first class public transport infrastructure this city has (MTR, Buses, PLBs and Taxis) anyone who owns a car and only uses it occasionally, owns a luxury. If they can afford such a luxury then surely they can afford to pay the road tax for it.


By the way, before I get flamed, I am not suggesting that in many cases just because people use their car every day (to drive to the office let's say) that that isn't a luxury also in this city.


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spurtio 15 yrs ago
mrsmith, I have lived on the island and in Saikung, so yes I know exactly what it is like with kids living in the NT. To my mind however, anyone with a car, living in either Fan Ling or Sai Kung (your examples) is unlikely to be an occasional driver. They are more than likely to be a daily driver. Therefore not the subject of my comment.


But even using your example of a family with two kids in Fan Ling or in Sai Kung that wants to go to Disney, or Ocean Park or Chai Wan "occasionally" and therefore own a car. I somehow doubt this would be an every weekend activity, so say that happens once a month or twice a month. To own and keep a car simply for journeys on two days out of thirty is a luxury. The option, if one didn't want "to be in crowded public transport" is to take a taxi. Far cheaper to do that twice a month than to pay to own and maintain a car to drive twice a month, with tax, insurance, fuel, parking charges etc. (I will exclude tolls since you will pay them in the taxi anyway:-))


I remain unconvinced by your examples.


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Tune 15 yrs ago
Please let's all stick to the point. If you do not drive or feel you need to question drivers about - why they drive, then please, start another thread. I drive, I live in the middle of nowhere; perhaps I'm a minority, then again perhaps I am not. Now about cheaper and less harmful to our environment fuel and the reasons we are not allowed to engage it.

Anyone?


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Tune 15 yrs ago
Regardless of whether we should have a car or not, or that we should or should not pay a fuel tax raises the question- shouldnt we at the very least have the choice to use less polluting fuels?

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alexus 15 yrs ago
let's all stick to the point. If you do not drive or feel you need to question drivers about - why they drive, then please, start another thread. I drive, I live in the middle of nowhere; perhaps [url=http:// www.shoxtrading.com] Nike air max bas prix [/url]I'm a minority, then again perhaps I am not. Now about cheaper and less harmful to our environment fuel and the reasons we are not allowed to engage it.


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190k 15 yrs ago
Yes lets stick to the point. LPG is still cleaner than electricity which is just diverting the pollution to somewhere else unless the electricity is generaterd through green means like solar, wind etc. Taking electricity off our grid just increases the demand on our coal fired power stations. Even when the turn to LPG stations the energy will be wasted in converting it to electricity and then transporting to through the grid to top up a car. Direct LPG from car tank to wheels is more efficient. I live in the north NT and need to drive because although there is good public transport it does not suit my working shifts and down time activities like getting from Yuen long to Sai Kung on a sunday morning with 50 kgs of equipment and then getting home at the end of the day. I actually drive a diesel pick-up which is cleaner than petrol cars

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