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kellym
20 yrs ago
What exactly are the long-term benefits of PR status? My husband and I (and kids) have been here nearly 7 years. We are facing an upcoming move back to the US. He wants to hold off on the move until we can get PR. I however am pregnant and waiting to move will mean that I will be facing this move having to deal with 3 kids rather than 2 (something I don't want to do!). We are in our early 30's so we can't rule out that there may be a business opportunity here for us many years from now. I'm wondering will it be worth the inconvenience for us (there are other issues why I don't want to wait - not just the pregnancy thing). My husband can't stand the thought of leaving HK one month shy of PR eligibilty. Any thoughts? And how long is the processing?
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I agree with November - if you keep your PID status your children will also benefit when they grow up - they will be able to come to HK to work/ study whatever without a visa. You only need to go through HK immigration once every three years - no time limits - so if you are on the way to somewhere else - just go through immigration and then reenter the immigration up stairs...
There has got to be some benefits of living here for so long!
Moving with 3 kids (esp. if one is a baby) is not that much more than with 2 - having moved with 1,2,3, and 4 - once you are past 2, life just works out!
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If the kids are younger than 11 they will automatically get PID when they turn 11 if one of the parents is a PID card holder, even if they have not lived here for 7 years. (which if they are 5 they will not qualify for PID status anyway in their own right) FOTH's suggestion is a good one.
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My kids are 5 and 4 right now. So technically, they wouldn't have to return every 3 yrs, only my husband? He has to start working in the US early next year (Feb/March) but should still have some flexibility to come here to apply and to visit us about once a month (the other thing I wasn't looking forward to). I'll stay here with my kids then to finish out the school year and have the baby. I think I'm already realizing it would be stupid to pass up this opportunity over a couple months' inconveniece!
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Why not call the immigration dept to get all the right answers as everyone here can only work on what they know and have experienced which isn't exactly the same as your situation.
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yes, most likely will do that.
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cd
20 yrs ago
Even if the kids are under 11 so don't get an ID card, they get a page in their passports saying 'previous conditions of stay are hereby cancelled, Holders eligibility for HK permanent identitiy card verified". So they no longer need a visa.
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also a dependant visa doesn't mean that you automatically qualify for the right to work
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seal
20 yrs ago
One PR is granted you will not lose the right to work even if you do not come back every three years -
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seal
20 yrs ago
here is confirmation of above.
http://www.immd.gov.hk/ehtml/faq_roaihksar.htm
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"On attaining the age of 21 years, the person will cease to be a permanent resident of the HKSAR. He will then have to qualify on his own merits in accordance with the requirements stipulated in category (1) above. If he meets all the requirements, he can apply for the permanent resident status at any time."
Having read that information on the immigration website - it indicates that when non chinese desent children turn 21 they are no longer eligible to be PID holder under their parents status - that they then have to be eligible under their own right."
Category 1 states A person not of Chinese nationality who has entered Hong Kong with a valid travel document, has ordinarily resided in Hong Kong for a continuous period of not less than 7 years and has taken Hong Kong as his place of permanent residence before or after the establishment of the HKSAR.
This would mean that when your children turn 21, unless they have been in HK for the previous 7 years (ie from 14 - 21) or another 7 years continuously they will not be able to hold their PID from thence forth. So this would negate your few months of suffering for your childrens future possible work in HK as they are not old enough to have lived here for 7 years.
Your husband should apply for his, you should go home when you want, and your kids can earn their own later on.
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A thought...
Would it be feasible for you to do all the major moving in the next month or so, then both pop back to apply afterwards - you would need to keep things ticking over here, bills, salary etc while you're handling the move. Depends on how the timing works out but it might just work.
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Well we will most likely stick around HK till June. Easier adjustment for the kids school-wise. I can see the PR may not benefit the kids much, but is still valuable for my husband. Therefore we will stay here to maintain the residency while hubby works mainly in US and he can come back as needed. We will apply in March and be outta here in June. Not so bad. An added bonus - being able to give birth at the Matilda again vs. some public hospital in US!
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ceeh
20 yrs ago
kellym, nice to hear a US citizen say tht a facilitiy in another country is better than back in the States. Don't often hear that. Good luck.
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Just went to the immigration dept today for my 11 year old to get his PID, they warned me that if he were to leave HK withing the first 6 months of receiving it (not on holiday or boarding school but actuially move away) his permanent status may be compromised, and he may have to reapply.
I must also say they have really upped the service and system - we were in and out for 2 id cards within 45 minutes - pick them up in 2 weeks - must different where i had to wait for 3-4 hours to get my first one 11 years ago. So things are getting better in the public service!
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No - it wasn't given and I didn't ask because I didn't need to know as i will be here anyway.
Yes you would hope there would be improvements in a system over 11 years - back then the beaurocratic Brits were in charge - so maybe that had something to do with it!
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Maybe it's the fear of losing their cushy jobs?
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