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Jeanbuyer
12 yrs ago
My fiance and I have called off the wedding as she is upset cause I brought up a prenuptial agreement. The wedding has been canceled and I have asked her to return the engagment ring back to me which I paid quite a lot for. She says she doesn't want return it. Is there any way to get the ring back?
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Sorry to hear this...but technically she now owns the ring (as you gave it to her as a gift).
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yep agree.
you're only chance is to put emotional pressure on her, i.e. "you are happy to own a ring from someone you don't love anymore"?
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She actually said the reason she's keeping the ring is cause she wants the memory of the love that we once had. BTW this is not her first time to be engaged, she was actually engaged before, but she said the first time the guy wanted to give her the ring cause he cheated on her. She actually told me that presenting a prenupt is worse than a guy that cheats. I dunno, did I do something wrong?
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Isn't an engagement ring is a conditional gift contingent on marriage? Thus, if the engagement is broke off the ring should be returned to the one who gave it. I don't know if there are any laws on the matter, but just curious.
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I recall something similar to that... but I think it's an outdated law. Forget the ring, I think the prenup has saved you from losing a lot more than the value of the ring.
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Hi Ciu_yan,
Your right and thanks everyone for your advice and comments!
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Oski
12 yrs ago
Hmm...
Interesting.
My guess is that you can get it back.
Consult a lawyer and let us know what you find out.
Agree with previous poster, this is not the right girl to marry. You dodged a bullet.
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Guys, go easy on jumping on the ring keeper. Prenups are more widely acceptable in a western-culture setting. In Asia, the idea of having a "plan B" for the marriage amounts to a "non-commital" commitment. Most women would probably not go with it. The OP made the mistake of proposing before bringing the matter up. That for me is like an ambush, putting the blame on the woman.
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Hi NuinHK,
You have a point there...but is it really an ambush? I mean no one is at a loss. It protects both parties in an event of a divoice.
What do you guys think is it better to bring up a prenuptial before or after proposing?
The reason I didn't bring up the issue before proposing was cuase (me and her) have both verbally agreed that whatever we own prior to the marriage will still be ours individually and anything after marraige with be shared together. If a divorce does come about, we keep what we have originally and share what we have after marriage and she was ok with this.
Thus, I assumed bringing up a prenuptial would not be an issue. But when I brought up the prenuptial agreement, she was insulted that I didn't trust her and that a verbal agreement wasn't good enough. Is this still considered an ambush?
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Sky143, conversely, the fact that she called off the wedding because she didn't want to sign a pre-nup and is now refusing to give back the ring really says a lot about her character. I don't think she's saved herself a fortune but more likely to have realised that she's potentially lost a fortune and that is why she is keeping the ring.
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The best way to solve the problems. You and your ex fiancé should sit down and
talked about it. What went wrong along the way?Instead of jumping to conclusions and make the matter worse. Don't get me wrong. I think the reasoned why she called off the wedding is because she felt being forced against her will to sign the prenuptials agreement by you? Untrusted,preassured and stress feeling.'Damn'that hurts her alot. After that you ask back for the ring? Just like that, like no history between the two of you. I guess that's the reason why she won't return the ring...as of now... My advice next time get a lawyer to do the processing for you because that's what they do. Handling in a proper way. I just hope whatever she decided to do with the ring? Accept and respect her decision. That will make you a better person!
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It should serve as a wakening call:
Wife of Millionaire Wins "Unprecedented" Case to Overturn Prenup Agreement
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/wife-of-millionaire-wins-unprecedented-case-to-overturn-prenup-agreement-182017682.html
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Legally it is a conditional gift and therefore the ring is yours.
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Seems like the girl has had a lucky escape. Who in their right mind would sign a pre-nup? Your behaviour lacks dignity in my view.
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