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aquagul
18 yrs ago
Hi, can someone tell me whether it is ok to give UHT milk to toddlers. I cannot decide. I compared the nutritional info of Nestle fresh milk and Harvey UHT milk. To my suprise both were the same. So someone help!!!
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well i sure hope someone replies to your post! i posted a similar question before as i thought UHT milk can be kept in room temperature until opened and comes in little packs, it might be more travel-friendly. we have started our almost 12 months old on cow's milk but because nobody answered to my post, i thought it would be "safer" to feed fresh chilled milk. the only problem is that he wants it brought to at least room temperature!!
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Full-fat UHT should be fine for children over the age of two, don't give them the skimmed stuff. It's ideal for travelling because it's already at room temperature.
Wheelymate, you will have to wait a bit longer.
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cd
18 yrs ago
My kids have drunk UHT since they switched to cows milk.
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crj
18 yrs ago
I also thought UHT might be good for hot summer days... but then I read:
"How Does UHT or Ultra High Temperature Milk Differ from Ultrapasteurized Milk?
The major difference is that UHT milk is packaged in sterilized containers. UHT milk can be stored at room temperature for up to 3 months. Once opened, it should be refrigerated."
"Once the carton of UHT "long life" milk is opened it is no longer long life, it "goes off" at the same rate as ordinary milk (and needs to be kept in the refrigerator). "
So UHT might be good for travelling, or for keeping an extra container in the cupboard in case the fresh stuff runs out... but it doesn't actually make the milk last longer once it is open...
I have seen these 'cool insulated' cups with straws at Eugene Club in HK, and was considering those for the summer at the playground and for days out.
I haven't seen anything regarding Age 2 and up, and I searched a lot of parenting/toddler/baby sites for this - Claire, where did you read/hear that?
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I've been giving my baby (now 13 months) UHT milk a couple of times a week. SHe has regular full fat milk also from a straw and sippy cup but when we are out she takes the UHT. Which in Seoul, isn't even LABELED UHT until I figured it out later...(some stores sold it refrigerated and I assumed it was regular fresh milk and then it turned out not.)
in Seoul, you can get UHT milk in single serving sizes - 200 mls, which is what I carry when I am out and about. I thought I had seen Paul's brand in the same fashion.
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i wasn't hoping for UHT milk to keep longer, but more for reasons similar to HKCC - they come in little packs that you can take along for outings. so for future travels, i was thinking of bringing little UHT packs instead of worrying about the quality of milk in some countries and save the hassle of bringing a tin of formula.
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I keep looking and researching (since you posted WM) and I actually found a couple of posts that said that breastfeeding women and babies should ONLY drink UHT milk and not the regular pasteurized as some stuff escapes the pasteurization process. Which was interesting.
But a few of my Indian friends said something to the effect that "UHT milk isn't as good as regular milk - it's been more processed" and I just didn't pursue it at the time...but there seems to be some common idea that it just isn't as good? Everything that I've read thus far says that composition wise, it is just like regular milk.
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crj
18 yrs ago
HKCC/WM- aaaah, that is a great idea! I hadn't thought of using the small containers while out in HK!
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yes...
moms we are genius....we are brilliant. HAHAH.
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didy
18 yrs ago
We were advised by our pediatrician to give our baby UHT sinced we switched him to cow's milk at 1 year old. Park n shop sells UHT (of Vita or Paul's brands) in small containers. I just had to teach my son how to suck from a straw. He learned in one day.
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hi didy,
did your doc give a reason for his advice?
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Hi guys, I have some news for you all:
"UHT treatment of milk is considerably more severe than pasteurisation due to the higher temperatures involved. Therefore the loss of vitamins including B1, B6, B12, C, folic acid and thiamine during UHT processing is much greater than during pasteurisation. Research into calcium absorption into the body concluded that the absorption of calcium from UHT milk was some 20 per cent lower than fresh pasteurised milk."
Source: http://www.shetlandfarmdairiesltd.co.uk/nutrition.html
From another thread in this forum (http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/index.php?name=MDForum&file=viewtopic&t= 49930), posted by peggyliu on Sept. 24, 2006 (along with lots of other detailed info on food safety and nutrition concerns in China):
"Don’t buy local milk. Stick to UHT (boxed) Australian or New Zealand milk.
“Bright Dairy was found to have post-dated expired milk and sold it to consumers. According to the article, a TV station covering the company’s production facilities “even showed milk with maggots, saying it would be reused.” On Friday, June 17, 2006 the China Daily reported that an “industry insider” claimed “recycling expired milk is the norm in the domestic dairy industry and more than 90 per cent of fresh milk has already been contaminated before entering processing procedures.” This came after the China Business Weekly reported in 2004 that a senior Dairy Association of China expert claimed Chinese dairies marketed reconstituted powdered milk as fresh milk.”
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crj
18 yrs ago
Very interesting Aquagul.
If I had to choose between safe UHT and local questionable milk, I think UHT is a better option.
Here in HK we can get fresh Masters Pura from Australia, and it seems to be what most parents use. But I do like the idea of having a few boxes of UHT Maters Pura or St Pauls for 'emergency' or small cartons for outings.
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I've been giving UHT milk to my daughter since she's 13 months and am planning to switch my boy to same as soon as he turns 1 year old. My daughter had eczema when I was BFing her, and with formula milk, but it stopped since we've introduced solids at 6 months and she didn't have any reaction when we switched to cow's milk. As for the brand I usually by the First Choice or Dairy Farm milk.
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addis
18 yrs ago
My 27 mo has been on UHT milk (mainly Nestle Pure milk - any negative reports about this brand??) eversince we phased out his toddler formula at around 17 months or so. Since we spend a lot of time on the mainland, UHT seemed a (more sterile and, therefore), better option - in the absence of fresh milk from reputed brands and the added advantage of longer shelf life. But yes, UHT milk has certain minuses - for one, it is supposed to have a burnt flavour (one reason why many grown-ups shun it) and as this detailed in this article (link indicated below), results in loss of nutrients, too.
http://www.calstatela.edu/faculty/hsingh2/NTRS%20519%20topics/Heat%20Treatment%20on%20the%20Nutritional%20Value%20of%20Milk%20by%20Erin%20Gillis.pdf
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cd
18 yrs ago
Kids can get their calcium from many other foods other than milk, so it doesn't really matter if the calcium content is a bit lower in longlife milk. The cost and easy storage is a big factor for us. Our house regularly goes through 3 litres of longlife milk a day, sometimes more, that would sifnificantly add to our weekly food bill if we brought fresh. But if people are really worried about calcium, taste etc, drink fresh milk, but use longlife for cooking, cereals, sauces etc.
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