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westernized asians

ORIGINAL POST
Posted by wildorchid 19 yrs ago
It would be interesting to know when asians are considered as westernized and which connotation (positively/negatively) does this definition carry!


Your opinions, please!

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COMMENTS
cybersprocket 19 yrs ago
As an American, when I hear the phrase "westernized Asian" I think of someone who has adopted a demeanor, communication style and lifestyle more commonly associated with Europe and North America. Naturally, I should say that I am about to make some big generalizations, and sure, there are MANY exceptions to the rules.


W-Loud, outgoing, outspoken

A-quieter, less likely to share opinions, more demure


W-lives alone, more independent

A-lives with family, more family obligations


W-result oriented, not afraid to rock the boat in order to achieve desired result

A-process oriented, must maintain relationships and face, willing to take a longer road to achieve desired result


For me there is not a strict positive/negative connotation. I enjoy spending time with all sorts of people. However, in a romantic relationship, being “westernized” has a positive connotation for me, as this is more the way I grew up. It’s just easier to fit in with my lifestyle.


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shoun francis 19 yrs ago
I think those westernised freaks..."culturely shocked themselves" like they've been on the otherside...and somehow refuse to came back to their roots,..., and they captivate themselves as mediocre and live ini fear of revealing their "twisted" originaliaty..and now live without origins.....

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Shoun - 'westernised freaks' is not very nice. A very aggressive post from you.

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voiceofreason 19 yrs ago
shoun francis, sometimes you are utterly incomprehensible - "freaks"? i take it you come down on the "negative connotation" side of the question?


on second thought, PLEASE don't answer that.

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voiceofreason 19 yrs ago
"dear shoun francis,

you have bad breath, aka halitosis. please leave all XP forums at once.

signed,

anonymous"


i couldn't resist ;-)

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shoun francis 19 yrs ago
came on justin, surely you're not mocking me for that, i've read dead crushing comments from the likes of you...pleas.....


besides, literally means, abnormal..., could only thing of freaks..


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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Correctification??? JC, do you have your own dictionararium at home???

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shoun francis 19 yrs ago
hymmm..why should anyone feel offended if they are not freaks themselves...


heh, hope you don't mean that voiceofreason, i kinda like it here..nice to hear your comments, please pretty please.???

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Poor Nemesis. You don't know whether you're coming or going.

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shoun francis 19 yrs ago
its all well and gud!, don't you think...as long as you don't be hybrid...so, remember to always find you root....origins.

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Any time Nemesis.

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shoun francis 19 yrs ago
Ok...its time Justin when in the closet and i am coming out... he is obliviously snores...and sing at same time....

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Ha!!!!!!!! Cupboardy - love that sketch. JC you are definitely the maestro of made-up words.


I think Shoun's raison d'etre is to confuse us all.

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shoun francis 19 yrs ago
what again?... are we talking about black holes in india or JC's underpants...

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Yes we are Nemesis. Welcome to Llandewi Breffi!

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Nemesis, that's just for tourists! It's Llanfairpwll to us Taffs, lol!!!


If you like Extras and The Office you should also watch Nighty Night. British comedy is unparalelled.

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wildorchid 19 yrs ago
Thank you all for your replies. It's really interesting to read what you are thinking of my question.

A good friend of mine is an Asian, she graduated and then post graduated and had her internship in different countries in Europe. So altogether she spent round about 1/3 of her life out of her country.

When she's back to her country and started working there, her foreign bosses/colleagues like her ways of thinking, working and behaving very much while her country mates, especially guys dislike it. They say she's so straightforward, so tough, so independent and many other so...

It's been hard for her to find a b/f from her own country (she's had few b/f before and all were foreiners which is understandable since she was living abroad for so long) because she wants to be able to talk with her sweetheart in the same language, share almost the same values, listen to the same music, etc.

But, the big BUT comes, most of the fellow guys don't want to be in relationship with her, especially their parents!(hah!) They say they don't want their sons marry to a "husband"!

The friend is a loving girl and she's really down sometimes when she nearly gets into a relationship but fails afterwards.

That is also the time when she wants to be back to Europe and work and live there and she does have that opportunity.

But her dilemma is that she is kind of conservative in some aspects,therefore she also does not feel really comfortable to live there.

So she feels not welcome at home and uncomfortable elsewhere.

I don't know what to tell her.

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Pritt 19 yrs ago
Wildochild: What nationality is your friend? Sounds like she is from a very conservative country.


Seems like going back to Europe might not be the best solution in her case as being abroad alone is not an easy thing plus as you said she doesn't feel too comfortable living there.


You might has well encourage her to stay back at where she is but try to get out more to meet people with similar background, or at least people with more international exposure - surely she can click better with them.


Get her in here and we'll cheer her up!

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Muskuy 19 yrs ago
Posted by Vulvic (7 days ago)

Correctification??? JC, do you have your own dictionararium at home???


Posted by J.C.

>vulvic - of course i have my own dictionary, but again, I can only show you my dictionary if you show me yours...otherwise, all bets are off and you have to guess the made up word of the day ("lookintomyeyes, lookintomyeyes, not around the eyes, but into the eyes...3-2-1, you're under.....when you wake up you will believe that cupboardy is a word, cupboardy as in cupboard like....3-2-1 you're back in the room!")


HAHAHAHAHAA!! Excellent. I've not laughed so long in ages. Thanks for that guys. :) Love that sketch, as well.

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Dorris 19 yrs ago
There aint no such thing as a westernised asian...your either asian or your western simple as....lets not try to get complicated about this right? durr

Of course, we could say there are modern, world wise asians and likewise for westerners. But i really do feel that this 'label' is somewhat pathetic and should not be used. I guess this is just my opinion and it was formed by the fact that i had a BF who was born in Beijing but went to America when he was 6 years old and lived there until well into his thirties.
 
He loved to cal himself a 'westernised asian' and i used to laugh and say its like me saying im a southernised northerner...bit messed up really aint it. At the end of the day he was asian, his family, culture and background had a massive impact on who he was whether he was brought up in asia or in america.
 
He liked to say that he was more western than asian but he really wasnt...he was asian trying to act western....mmmm ive really confused myself now...lol
 

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lost in gz 19 yrs ago
dorris


like ur b/f, i was raised in america, but born in hk


obviously, there definitely is a noticable gap between the 2 cultures. cybersprocket gave a pretty good synopsis.


i have a lot of friends, who were abc (american born chinese) or moved over to the states when they were young, who feel that they don't really entirely belong to one group or the other. we kinda are stuck in the middle.


i think that's what you bf is implying....by saying that he's a westernized asian....an amalgamation of the two cultures.


sad to say, racism still exists in the states, and minorities gotta deal with it over there.


but back here, we don't really feel like we belong here either. half the times, i don't even understand what the locals are saying.


talk about confusing....



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alexinbeijing2 19 yrs ago
Westernized Asian should only apply to those immersed in the Asian culture who adopt a certain threshold of typically "Western" practices, such as the exchange student from China who likes and adopts a bunch of US culture. Thus all my Chinese American friends - born and bred in the US - are not Westernized Asians at all, but rather Westerners through and through (Asian Westerners, if you must).


Actually, sometimes I find them to be more American than me (a second-generation Italian American). Using the same rule, you might call me an Easternized Westerner, although I don't hear that phrase too often.

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Yuppie 19 yrs ago
I wonder if there is also easternized caucasian... lol

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Squall 19 yrs ago
To define "the West" as a single bloc is madness. Being a continental Northern European I have less in common with someone from the South of the US than I do with most Chinese.


If you take the Italians for example, they are far closer to Asians on family values, but far less close on hiding emotions.


There is a general cultural trend for Chinese to be a certain way, but many defy it. And even if we deny it, the same apllies to Europeans or Americans.


I think many foreigners are simply united in China by the fact they cannot fit in so easily with the locals, so they form their own community of foreigners. They still don't quite act as they would at home, but feel united by the fact this is not their real home and thus it will be easier for someone in a similar situation to understand their difficulties.


In a relationship.....it really depends on the person. I have met plenty of Asian people who are very open and unmaterialistic. I've also met plenty who cheat rather than remain faithful. I truly think it's all down to the person. Certain things may be socially frowned upon in Asia, but most of that is flying out the window with the youngest generation it seems....

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wildorchid 19 yrs ago
That's really a sad and frustrating fact. One cannot make the choice as to where to be born and who to be born. I wish I could magic the discrimination away to make a better world for all to live peacefully!

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rats 19 yrs ago
Boeing, when you mention 'we are not even muslims or Pakistanis...', isn't that just a kind of discrimination? So it is just and all make sense for those abusive words if your family were muslims or Pakistanis?



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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Boeing787


I read a wonderful, book earlier this year called 'A Black Englishman' by Carolyn Slaughter. It is based on the life of her great grandmother who was put into a mental institution becuase of her relationship with an Indian doctor in colonial India. You should read it, it covers a lot of the racial stereotypes that you mention.

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Vulvic 19 yrs ago
Wasa - have you had to make such a stand? He may run the risk of being disowned by his family.

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