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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
ok, we all talking about how to find out your boyfriend / girlfriend cheats, hacking emails, sms, questioning, etc...
So if you find out your boy/girl friend really got involved with someone else, what would you do?
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I would something very childish like cut the left leg off every pair of trousers and then leave.
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Me too actually, but only after having let him know I know; you know what I mean?
Revenge and all that doesn't work for me. The one time I tried it not only did I feel immensly guilty, it backfired horribly and taught me a harsh lesson.
Revenge is NOT sweet, but it definitely is a dish best served cold
(which I realise now I find very hard to be)
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Backfired? How so? What was your plan of action.
Well if I were faced with that situation, I would prolly freak out, have a huge row and then go out with my mates and get trashed.
It's not grown-up or clever, but then again neither am I.
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lulu
19 yrs ago
I walked away as well with my ex boyfriend. but then somehow i think back, should I fight and ignore it and then he will be settled after a while?
but anyway, it's done its done. Everyone need to grow up.
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lulu
19 yrs ago
can you guys walk away that easy? ever thought about ignore and have a silent treatment?
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shaq
19 yrs ago
I'll advise a walk away too, but not until I dug out from him/her as to why he/she cheated.
I guess, knowing why he/she cheated will help the next relationship, especially where one must have done something wrong, which might have precipitated the cheating.
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it does hurt, but is there really something you could do about it?? Ask the reason for cheating, it might be something you don't want to hear or it's use some bullsh*t excuses .... so what's the point...
if your boy/girlfriend do cheated on you, forget it. He/she's not worth of any of your time.
Like the others, i'd just walk away and get on with my life......there's much more out there...
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shaq
19 yrs ago
Solo >> I know. But wouldn't it be helpful to know that there's no reason, in which case you'll know it's not your fault and that he/she is just iiresponsible?
Peace out :P
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Actually, the guy i was seeing have a girlfriend and she found out that we have communications and sms from the mobile. She use his phone (pretend to be him) and send me some rude messages, I thought it was him so i stop talking to him.
Then he texted me after a while and we found out that she was the one who sent those messages. Now we still see each other a bit, and then we went away from our holidays (he went with his girlfriend) and during the holidays i sent the guy some messages for Xmas greetings. Then his girlfriend use his mobile to send back "f**k off" to me. So i asked him what had happened.
He told me that his girfriend ask him about me and he asked her to leave his phone alone. actually I really not sure what he say and what he going to do...so it's a bit fustrated.
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So you are 'the other woman' Foxxy. Can I ask you a question? Are you deliberately trying to split up their relationship?
I always wonder if women like you have any self-respect. My guess would be 'no'.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
No. I never try to spilt them up. I never confront anything too,I never tempted the guy to go to bed with me or anything, but the guy has expressed that he is not too happy with his relationship. There is always a 2 side story, so I will not care too much about it.
Please do not need to lecture me cos i think i read a lot of this here already. I also try to look for some other things to occupy myself so i can leave them alone.
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I have made a vow not to break up any relationship (knowingly) just due to the fact that I had to live with my mum after my dad went off with Mrs Doubtfire...
Well, I witnessed my lovely bubbly little ball of fun that my mum used to be, become a pining, lost little individual who just didn't like living alone or infact have many skills to really cope in this world on her own.
The hurt it caused was more like a ripple effect, it touched many more people than my dad is aware of and I was watching all this from the age of 13!
My aim is that I never cause this sort of upheaval just by being selfish and wanting someone elses bloke; it just can't be worth it...
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
no, actually we been sending messages to each other pretty often even before Xmas. He also expressed that he want to move away from her but somehow it is not easy cos she is a bit of a "strong woman". May be a lot of excuses, i am not sure, i am not even sure whether it is good to be with him but i just like him a lot.
Of course, i felt very unhappy to know he has got a girlfriend, but it seems we like each other a lot as well.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
No of course not. I would like him to leave his girlfriend, but i do not want to be too close to him straight away cos somehow may be i worried to loose him too. I want to continue to be friends without hiding and observe him a bit more....well kind of fustration, may be love him too much.
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Foxxy- have you considered that if you two do get together that he might do the same thing to you?
Just because you interest him now does not mean you always will. How can you trust a mine that you know is sneaking behind his g/fs back?
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tia
19 yrs ago
I would like to think that if we had a good relationship that I could work through it and "forgive" but my problem would be "forgetting" and I fear I would throw it in his face at every possible time.
I might do something vengeful first, like toss out something that they cherished, but I would be walking out the door at the same time.
If one partner cheats, to me, it is a sign that something is not working in the relationship. Forgive him once, he may do it again.
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Foxxy - aren't you Foxx, the girl who told some guy that you loved him even though you knew he had a g/f????
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Nemesis - sorry, I couldn't resist!
Solo - you are right. Perhaps if Foxx'x Mum had taught her to behave with respect and decency, she wouldn't be chasing after other women's b/fs.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
I am foxx, but i dont why i got banned. So i register another handle.
Vulvic> i would like you not to say anything horrible to my mom. My old boyfriend got stolen by another woman too, but i never complain and say anything bad about her. I did not even hate my boyfriend cos i think sometime a relationship is coming to an end, it's the end. no one to blame, and you cannot force someone to stick with you, both parties got to responsible if the relationship got a problem. Blame is not the answers.
Vulvic> i probably think you are those women like his girlfriend, like to look at your BF's mobile and send rude messages to others, I dun think you respect people much too.
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You're right Foxx, I shouldn't have said that about your Mum. However, do you think she would happy if she knew what you were up to?
As for b/fs and mobile phones, have never felt the need to snoop. I believe in trusting my partner and snooping on them reeks of insecurity.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
I do not think she will be happy, I am not happy too. My father have lots of affairs when they were younger too, but she always feel sad that she did not leave him and stuck here!!
I am looking for available person, but there are not many sincere ones around. Still trying ...
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Foxx, don't you understand that the guy is just having sex with you on the side? he doesn't love you and even if his girlfriend leaves him, he'll most likely still view you as an easy sh*g rather than a potential partner?
What part of this is difficult to understand?
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
yeah it is wrong and he use me for sex, better this way.
Solo> well i sort of know even he left his girlfriend he might be still the same, but somehow i think i might as well! I will not sleep around but then i do not want to take him so seriously cos it just hurt myself at the end.
Somehow i do not mind not to have anyone cos most men use girl for sex anyway. I can use them for sex too! hahaha..
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Nemesis - indeed. Let's try a different tack.
Foxxy, as Solo Con Te points out, you are hurting yourself as well as the g/f in this situation. The only winner appears to be the b/f who has a steady relationship with his g/f and sex on tap with you.
Don't you think you are worth more than that? Wouldn't you rather be the primary partner, the girlfriend, rather than the furtive lover, alone on holidays, snatching a few hours in bed with the b/f every so often?
Get some self-respect and move on - find an unattached man who will put you first.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - low self-esteem.
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I think what foxxy wants to hear is that the gf will leave, if she finds out the man is cheating. Personally, I don't blame Foxxy for wanting to use the guy for sex, hey, a girl has her sexual needs as well. I blame the guy for two timing. however, it's a dangerous game you are playing now, foxxy. Don't get emotionally attached to him, otherwise you will get hurt.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Bear & Vulvic, thank you so much for your advise, and i think i could see you both always lecturing others what is right and what is wrong..I think you both happily involve with your partners (espeically i got from Bear!) and wish you always be happy and problem-less for the rest of your live. Hope You will both go to heaven and be an angel.. got a hallow on top!
Not trying to be an evil here but somehow we always say "everyone know a mother is a female" everyone want to have the prefect life and relationship, rich, happy and healthy. But if this is all life about? why dun you both start a forum on "Prefect relationships forum", and you happily engaged people can share the happiness of your relationship, then so many of us can skip this forum!!!
I might be low self esteem, actually i never think i am, course i think i got quite a lot of guys interests in me, thanks for raising this up. I will look into that.
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rats
19 yrs ago
Vulvic- why left-leg of the pants?
It suprised me that how few of you will consider giving your bf/gf a second chance. Don't forget we are not a saint and mistake can happen. Without comparsion, how one can realise that you are the better one? ;)
When I was young, I also believe that the ‘3rd person’ is the worst kind of person on earth, deserved to be condemned and despised. Even when I found of my friend was the ‘3rd person’ in a relationship in order to be with a worthless man in my eye two years ago, I was so disappointed at her and kept mocking her.
But don’t you think such idea is no longer up-to-date and actually pretty narrow-minded? If a relationship is meant to be, like one handle here once said ‘love can prevail and no obstacle can stop it’. The third person should not to be blamed.
However, I do agree that one should control his actions and do not destroy families that have kids (say, age 0-21?)!
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Rats> you are the first person in this forum which speak different languages!!!
Well, somehow it is not "up-to-date" or not, but somehow i do feel not too worry about how long the relstionships last...is how "happy" when you are in a rerlationship.
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Foxxy - Sarcasm? Nice try.
Actually, I'm single. So I am not lecturing on the the 'perfect' relationship at all. All I have said is that trying to start a relationship from dishonest actions is a bad thing. Actually I think a few people have said similar, not just myself and bear.
Rats - I don't monogamy is outdated or narrow minded. I believed this when I was young and I believe it now.
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I believe people deserve second chances. There are many reasons why relationships break down, why people cheat.
But it doesn't make it right. Somewhere along the line, you have to know when to draw the line. Sure for everyone, the line is drawn at different points. But know your limits. Otherwise, human relationships would end up being one big orgy.
Sure, it's not easy at all, breaking away from someone with whom you've started to have feelings for. The fact that he hasn't left her for you after all this time shows that he probably will never do it, unless she boots him out.
And what's left for you? Second hand emotions? Leftovers?
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rats
19 yrs ago
Foxx, don’t be too happy too soon. It doesn’t mean I agree what you said or done indicated by most of your threads here. :P I am just being objective and give my opinion regarding the whole ‘3rd-person’ issue.
Vulvic, if you read my thread carefully, I have the least intention to reject monogamy. I probably will practise it myself but it doesn’t mean others have to follow. Be a bit more flexible in mind wouldn’t do you any harm. I was just trying to say we have the right to choose the ‘right’ one in a very elastic scope of moral. I just don’t like people victimising themselves when their bf/husband is with someone else and blame the 3rd person (Mind you, I have never been a 3rd person myself :P ) I will be the first one to rise my hand if Foxx’s ‘male-friend’ break up with his gf and try to develop a real relationship with Foxx. ( though I have little faith that she wants the offer)
Ok now, vulvic, pls be kind and tell me why only cutting the left-side of the pants?
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maybe because something probably hangs lower on the left side?
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rats
19 yrs ago
Balzac - you have typed exactly what I wanted to :D , i.e. some people deserve a 2nd chance and one has to know his own limits.
Foxx, my friend who was a thrid person is now the '1st hand' gf of the boy. Why? True love win? I am not sure, just know as Balzac mention, the ex-gf booted the boy out and it was NOT his decision to choose my friends but she is just there (form what i observed, he never wanted to make the decision). Now they are living happily together for a year. But isn't that a bit pathetic? You are not with him becuase he loves you soooooo much that he can't live without you and pick you. Just becuase you are 'hand-reached' for him.
I will never be happy in such a relationship. Too degrading.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
balzac> I have feelings for him and i could break away from it. I prepare to leave him anytime. If i want him badly, i will play tricks and ask him decide.
I do meet a lot of people but "just" still not finding the right person yet...so somehow i do think about him and miss him, but i already knew that i will not even have "the second hand emotion" or "being the shether".
just another question, do you all think that her girlfriend checking his phone and use his phone to send me rude messages is "so pure and wonderful" as well?
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Rats - I am a fairly easy going person and tolerant of a lot of things. However, I do not suffer fools gladly.
Foxx will do exactly what she wants. Why she posted a thread asking for opinions is beyond me, she doesn't like hearing any others tha her own.
As Nemesis has pointed out, Foxx is repeating a cycle of behaviour that started with her parents and it's one I'm sure she will continue through her adult life.
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Foxxy, the b/f has already chosen and you were not the lucky one! Why do you persist in believing he has any esteem for you at all?
I don't think the g/f sending you rude messages is particularly "good" behaviour but it's understandable and it's hardly on a par with your behaviour!
***Head banging against brick wall***
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rats
19 yrs ago
Nemesis and Vulvic - I didn't know the 'history' of Foxx...
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Nemesis and Vulvic > i think you both a bit too much on saying things about "parents". This is actually "immoral" to comment someone parents' as someone just fall into some attached men. Well so all the so called "3rd person" have mental problems, abuse childhood, all divorcee, seperation are commiting adultry. They should be thrown to hell, etc..
Gosh, that is why the head of the Catholic Group in HK Mr. chan can commenting about "poltics" and "police are scrums" extra...
You women just like to stay at your fish ponds and commenting others how to be prefect,how other parents behaved, If I am a guy, i truely will break up if i met woman like that!!
Anyway,i dump the guy at this moment, I think he is the scrummiest man in the century and i should be pure and find a virgin to go out with! He will live with his girlfriend happy ever after in their own castle!! Happy now!?
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errrm sebastien there is HUGE difference between thinking about something and actually doing it.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Sebastein> actually i enjoy reading your revenge post as at least it looks a bit different, and its a bit of sharing rather the lecturing "responses". I cannot say agree with what you did and i will not do that but then it is kind of "sharing" think that is why we do not have many guys respond to this thread. hahaha
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Foxxy, so you believe Sebastien's story do you? you don't think it sounds a tad unlikely? especially in light of his next "saints and burning in hell" post?
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Foxxxy - it's not so much about ruinning someone else relatioship, the problem is you would end up in a mess and misery if you get yourself involved with this man now. I would feel you should stay friends with him with nothing further developed, if he truly likes you enough or his current relationship is not working, he will set himself free and you can then be with this guy. But mind you, a lot of guys just don't have the guts to leave their current relationship, so at the same time, open up youself and meet other guys...
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The thing about revenge is that it never feels as good as it looks.
Sebastien, you probably did it to hurt her. But knowing how people can justify things-she probably used your 'revenge' as a justification for betraying you. Post-reasoning,they call it.
You see-it never really ends.
Revenge is sweet? Not really.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that Foxx, has already slept with this guy. So you could say things have gone far enough.
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Solo
u cant say revenge in low IQ behaviour...durrr
Have you been cheated on? and for crying out loud..each to their own. We all deal with things differently...revenge is not nice and yes sometimes it doesnt work out too well and causes the revenger (lol) more damage than anything else but each to their own my friend.
How you can say its 'very low IQ behaviour' i can not fathom, nor do i wish to get on that level. Revel can be a very difficult and trying task and can actually rely on a lot of guts and intelligence. Next time maybe you should thing carefully about what you write!
Hahaha that told you!
From one chick who is proud of her revenge ...and did teach the basterd a real lesson! He may actually think more next time he cheats (im sure he isnt over his cheating yet though! LOL) :)
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rats
19 yrs ago
Sebastien- thanks for sharing your story and glad that you finally make it with your gf.
But revenge is really stupid, doing so is hurting both parties (or even three, the one who was being used by you for the revengence).
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Sebastien - I have no intention to lecture but what you have done is horribly selfish. Your girlfriend cheated on you and you were hurt by it and thus you cheated on her with other girls. Have you thot of how all these poor girls would have felt being physically used by you in the name of a revenge? You said you met this nice Chinese girl who was wondeful, sweet and everything, what makes you think she deserved to be treated the way you've done to her??? she's not the one cheating on you!!!
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wow...emotions does make one do things that they would not usually do.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Good to have sebestein for the continuation of the thread as i really do not have much to say and do not think i can add any updates on it cos i do not have a boyfriend.
Well anyway, the thread title is "when you find out your boyfriend/girlfriend cheat.." so welcome people to contribute their experiences or thinking and not bombarding on certain people's behaviour...
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Matho> no boyfriend is no boyfriend. I like someone who is into me and some others like me but i am not into them, that's it!
Solo> what is a good person to you? Not cheating is good?
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Solo> Not on me. I got a lot of opinion from you guys. Just i would think judging a person is good or bad, not depend whether he/she is cheating, or even from the net.
I am not desperate on getting anyone. Actually i do not really have a problem on that, but it just somehow not wanting to.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
the quote from Guardian from voice of reason from the other thread is pretty good.
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
well do not think we are f**ked up women thou, that is not very nice to call yourself like that.
I think i gave up the guy somehow, well actually i never really think he gonna be mind. Just before Xmas, he gave me some hope that he said he might leave his girlfriend, but now he pull it down...that is why i was a bit down before.
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rats
19 yrs ago
Foxx, you do want the opinions from others, and at best, their justification that you are right. or else you won't post the thread here at the first place :)
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Opinion? Not really. I know the answers/ what to do before i post the thread. Move on, leave him, etc... I just want to hear other experiences when they found out their other half cheats.
Solo> i do not think i am right anyway even i am not the one whop cheats at the moment. I just feel a kind of sadness to meet and fall for the guy. There are many guys around and so happens i met him, but anyway, i know what to do.
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Foxxy, how did your mother feel when she found out your father was having lots of affairs?
Do you really want to make another woman feel that way?
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
actually when i found out my boyfriend got an affair, i felt hurt but i feel relief at the same time. As he was not treating me well for a long time but i just do not have the guts to leave him and then when i found out he got someone. I left.
I did not feel sad actually, but after he had the girl, there was something he did really upsets me, its not because of the affair, its the way he handled it.
Bumpy> can you guys stop talking about my mother? My mother married early and my father is typical business man in the old days. I do not like my mom to stay married cos i think she is stupid to stay, whether my father have affairs or not, my father do not know how to be a good hubby or father, just typical obessive chinese man She just stuck here and complain. She is too weak as well.
One more time, i dumped that guy already. And his girlfriend can continue send rude messages to me. I did not do anything to harm her and she did harmful things to me, so i get away from them. Happy now, 1st wife club? hahahaha.
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sorry guys, but I have to agree with Foxxy, please stop bringing up her parents issues, we really don't personally know Foxxy, let alone her family. There is always other factors other than family background contribute to one's belief and behaviour. Foxxy, it must have been awful to fall for someone who's taken, please take it easy and make sure you'll be occupied enough to leave the whole thing behind and be well.
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Okay, but she did volunteer the information that her father cheated on her mother.
Foxxy, do you really believe that sleeping with this woman's boyfriend several times did no harm to her?
But she did you harm by sending you angry messages?
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Bumpy> not only my mom got cheated, most women i know got cheated too. i am not sure what my mom thinks, but i get some sharing from my friends. So i just asked.
I do not know how much harm she got, and actually i am not responsible for her harm anyway. Many people got harmed too in the world. she might harm someone earlier too. I am sorry, i cannot be too nice this way. But she does not seem to be a very nice person on checking his boyfriend's mobile, pretend to be him and keep sending me rude messages.
She should talk to her boyfriend or call/confront me instead. I really do not like women playing tricks like that. I never say i am right, as i think this is going silly too, so i try to get away but her bahviour is a bit crazy as well.
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I disagree, I think you have already done something to hurt this guy's girlfriend. I'm sure she knows by now that you have slept with her b/f and that is why she keeps texting you.
However, you say that you have ended things with him and that is a good move. The guy is clearly no good and you deserve to meet someone better. Good luck.
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I know most people will blame on the third party, but it always takes 2 to tango, the guy shouldn't have developed anything with Foxxy because he himself knows his status the best. There is way too many guys out there dishonestly sending various messages to the other women that they are going to split up with their current girlfriends but they never do. Foxxy is not targetting a married man here, but the point is, Foxxy, this guy is not worth your time or hassle, don't blame it on his girlfriend but him, I am happy you've done the right thing to leave the whole ordeal behind, good luck
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
Actually i think the guy is the worst in this case. He did not want to tell me he got a girlfriend when he first met me, and then i keep asking him and finally he admits.
The girlfriend actually sent me rude messages even the guy told her that we did not sleep together.
Well then,somehow i do try to think he is such a scummy bastard to lie to everyone, so i could hate him more and not thinking about him anymore. It does help a bit.
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Depends. If there were no feelings involved and it was pure physical, I won't end it. I would still get hurt though. I'd rather my partner cheated than think of someone else while with me. We cannot be sexually exited by each other forever...
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if my boyfriend/girlfriend cheats me
i will leave him/her & i don't love him/her
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Foxxy:
I have never expressed or commented on these threads the way I'm about to now, but I feel very strongly about this issue...
Are you one of those women who feel some sort of deranged sense of power by seducing another woman's boyfriend or husband?
Does it make you feel more beautiful, sexy, important, or special?
Or are you just taking revenge for the experiences your mother and friends unfortunately experienced?
Have you ever been HURT, Foxxy?! Do you know that you can really HURT someone with what you're doing?
You actually said that you are "not responsible" for the harm that that man's girlfriend went through - you may be right... but I wonder if that's what you will be FEELING once another sexier, more beautiful, more important, and more special than you seduces your OWN boyfriend or husband...
A few relationships in my life have been affected by woman like you, attempting to seduce my partner - my instincts have NEVER failed me...I ALWAYS know which ones are scheming...and although my partners have always declined in those situations, it has still HURT me terribly because I believe women are sacred (not that they always believe that of themselves). We are the sources of love, nuturing and compassion in this world. We need each other to trust in, understand, confide in and support one another.
I am EMBARRASSED that their are women like YOU who USE their sexuality to HURT OTHER WOMEN. And I wonder some times if WE as women sometimes get the short end of the stick because women like YOU play such sick games with men.
Now the following statement is a little out of character for me, because your behaviour (and others like you) just make me blind with rage...Just believe, if you were to EVER cross ME & try to play those games with my partner - 32 or not, lawyer or not, there would be no words, nor rude messages on your mobile... I would personally hunt you down and KICK YOUR ASS!
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On a calmer & more constructive note, if you understand how destructive this is and choose to deal with your self-esteem issues, please get some help... but if you understand and do not care to address your issues with self-esteem, then God help you...
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
lotusinbloom> I never feel any sexier, important nor any revenge of fall for a person that is attached. Not all women like to play tricks and scream like you.
Moreover, i quit this site and i dumped everything. and the winner is all the good humble rich girlfriend, they can happily be a control freak of their boyfriends.
Many girls ask me whether i want to change to a lesbian cos it seems not a lot of good men exisitng. However, i never thought i can be a lesbian cos i really dislike women jealously, cat fight and playing mind girls.
My boyfriend had cheated me and I left him, I felt sad but i never blame him or hate the girl, i think everyone did have responsiblilities when something like that had happened. Only blaming and becoming nuts doesnt helps yourself. I never think of revenge as well, what the revenge for? why dun i wish him happiness if he's not love with you anymore? anyway, i am out of this forum and the thread closed as no more boyfriend cheats. Everybody in heaven and be happy
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from your posts it sounds like you were the one playing tricks & mind games in this little menage-a-trois - you tried to get b/f to leave his unsuspecting g/f and after going to bed with him a few times you told him you loved him - and then kidded yourself about what his response meant. You texted him sweet nothings whilst he was on holiday with the g/f.
And now you're trying to make out you are the injured innocent party.
By the way, what is a "humble rich" girlfriend? and is a "control freak" a woman who expects her s/o to be faithful to her?
It sounds to me like you really don't like women at all, which is probably why you have no compunction about the way you behave, and is no doubt related to your self-esteem issues. Self-loathing is of course extremely damaging.
Have you considered counselling?
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Foxxy
19 yrs ago
there is always a few names here keep critising me in the thread and i do think they are the one who need conselling.
My thread was asking "what will you do when your boyfriend/girlfriend cheats" I am not asking people for their opinion on what i had been doing and ask you "good fellows" to agree with me.
I start this thread not to ask you guys what to do with me, please read before you scream senselessly. sigh. gosh, i really hate women sometime ...
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Why are you all so negative? There is a reason behind everything. I feel sorry for people who cheat. Nobody would cheat if things were perfect in their relationships or in their own private life. Some people are so messed up that they need the cheating to make them feel good about theirselves. That is really sad.
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My husband cheated on me I checked his phone record from he internet. Got the number call the Fillipino girl up tell her truth the guy she is going out with is a married man, then been to lawyer apply for seperation imm. I know I was wrong to check his phone numbers but if i never checked it and never come across to know that he has another women in his life.
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Yes, shady - I'm human...that's the part that would want to kick someones a** (that's also the part I explained was out of character for me, remember?!)...but if we are made in the likeness of God, then we all have a piece of Divinity in us, do we not?!
"To err is human, to forgive is Divine"...well, I've done very well in my life with the err-ing part...I'm still working on that forgivness bit!
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