My Broken marriage!



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Posted by iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
Hello any one I'm just confusing with my marriage.I marriage some one from Canada and when we were marriage his Visa holding was visitor and we marriage legally in Hong kong and my visa is working Visa.And after that i went back to my country and he went back to canada to proccess my permanent resident visa but we have a big problem and he cancel.


He tried to sent me divorce letter but i did not sign any thing and now we are hang and not even divorce.


He always says that he has no problem to marriage in any country accept Hong kong without divorcing me.


And he did not report our marriage in Canada.

What I'm asking is is that true what he said that he can marriage again without divorcing me?


Thank U so much wished any one know my problem and help me to resolve my situation.


Cheers


In Hong kong

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Highway-9 15 yrs ago
IF you are saying he was married to you in HongKong it makes little difference as to visa status as long as the marriage was legal under HongKong laws.


Describe your problem more clearly. (I am a Canadian citizen and immigration is almost a daily discussion there).


A lawful marriage anywhere is recognised in Canada (actually if people live together for three years they are 'married').


Spouses (you) can enter Canada even if the other marriage partner is only a Landed Immigrant or Permanent Resident. Canada is pretty easy to get in for genuine spouses.


He has to SERVE your with divorce papers (issued in the province where he is living) pursuant to court rules. There are specific service procedures AND he (or someone acting for him) has to SWEAR an affidavit that the service on you was according to the rules. If this is not correct you can get any divorce reversed.


In Canada there is "no fault" divorce; no one is blamed and you can get divorced for incompatibility.


Re-post and advise which province he is living in. You could do a Google search putting his name between quotations "name name surname" as many legal procedures are listed on Canadian legal web sites.


Are you a HK citizen?


P.S. YOU can register a HK marriage in Canada. ;) Send me a PM if you want.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
now i'm not Hong kong citizenship and i never live together with him after marriage and we just got marriage and he left and trying to sponsor me with permanent resident in canada and i went back to Indonesia (I'm Indonesian Cityzhenship).the thing is i was refused several time to visit canada even with travel visa after marriage or before marriage.


What u means it makes little difference the visa status under Hong kong laws?

My problem is,


My husband is canadian citizenship and we never stay or live together he live in canada and i live in Hong kong and he came here to marriage me with his visa holding travel and im here is with working visa and we got marriage here.


After we marriage we have big a problem while he sponsor me become canadian Citizenship and i tried to apply visa visitor was refused as well.and we continued with sponsorship paper and almost done but he cancel cos we had a big problem and some reasons for us.


And he sent me divorce paper last time from canada but i did not sign it.Now he does not need divorce cos he does not want to spent money and he said he can marriage again in this world without divorcing me accept Hong kong.


My question is that true what he said?

N he never report our marriage in canadian government but I did I report my marriage in Indonesia government.


do u know any canadian legal web sites regarding my case?

And Now what I should do?


For Indonesian i can divorce him without his signature cos the reasons in my country cos he has no responsible with everything as husband so we could divorce him.


Thank u so much for the advice.


Best Regards


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selda 15 yrs ago
Do you want to live in Canada or HK?


You never lived with him. He is in Canada you are in HK. Why did you decide to get married? And now, why does he want a divorce?


It's strange that you don't talk about the relationship problems you have with your husband but only mention immigration and visa.


You give the impression that this is some sort of bogus marriage, or maybe he wanted a mail-order bride. How long have you known each other? What kind of experiences you shared before getting married?



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canebisio 15 yrs ago
All this story sounds strange.

However I think he can marry again because the Canadian offices do not know he is still married and he probably has the paper saying he is single.

You should go to the Canadian embassy and show them the paper he is married. Then probably they will transmit them to Canada and he will not able to marry before he divorce you.


Good luck

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
yes i have marriage certificate here in hong kong

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Highway-9 15 yrs ago
OP (IamAnna):

The chances are that you have said enough to persuade Canadian Immigration, who are very suspicious characters anyway, that your marriage is not real. These are called "marriages of convenience" and are a quick way o get rejected.


This sentence of yours says a lot: "he came here to marriage me with his visa holding travel and im here is with working visa and we got marriage here."


If you were married and you applied a for a visa you would get rejected as the Canadian government knows once you are let in you could get married, in Canada, and then claim a status change. This is where you likely messed up,


You said: "And he sent me divorce paper last time from canada but i did not sign it." Bad news; if you received this paper you were SERVED which means the divorce process can proceed. If you don't show up he will get a default divorce - but he will have to pay for a certificate. (YOU need a copy to prove you are divorced).


He said: "he said he can marriage again in this world without divorcing me accept Hong kong." WRONG! Likely the Canadian government knows he is married and if he gets married again, anywhere in the world, he has committed bigamy under Canadian law. Bigamy means being married to different people at the same time.


Indonesian law is likely different; you were married under HongKong law and he lives under Canadian law. Both these laws are based on UK law so you are married until the country one of you RESIDE in gives you a divorce.


Use Google as I explained above (or send me his full name, and which province he is living in by a Private Message) and you might find the information on the InterNet as many legal matters are posted in Canadian government web sites.

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smileclick 15 yrs ago
This has dodgey written all over it......


Reading between the lines,


Indonesian domestic helper meets Canadian guy on the internet, he comes to HK to meet/get married... Tries to visa for new wife.... Canadian Immi think it look dodgey so gets knocked back. Guy goes back to Canada, realises his mistake (or she asks him to send too much money) and asks for a divoice.


I would give him his divoice and go back to fishing on the net....


There is no way you are going canada...


To answer your question, the marriage was in HK so need a divoice in HK - he does not need your sig but would have to wait longer(2 years). He CANNOT get married again(worldwide) as he would be committing bigamy.



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Amparo Kia 15 yrs ago
looks like a marriage of convenience for me...being married but not living together... impossible and strange for a real marriage, not an emtional comment, only visa and immigration queries, major issue is how to gain entry to Canada...


Why stick to a marriage (be it real or fake) when your ultimate purpose is not served?



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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
well is strange marriage i think is true

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
so the answer is he can not get marriage before divorce me?

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smileclick 15 yrs ago
Correct.....


But he can still get married again, it is only when someone alerts the authorities that he is not divoiced that he can be charged. So if he cuts off all ties from you, you would never know and he can forget all about his fling in Hong Kong.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
what that does mean that some one alert the authorities that he is not divoice that he can be charged?and he also just can forget all the paper marriage in Hong kong,which mean just not obey the rule n he still can get marriage any way?


Thanks

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Pinky67 15 yrs ago
Take your marriage certificate to the Canadian Consulate and disucuss it with them!

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Justin Credible (Part Deux) 15 yrs ago
Erm...this guy doesn't want to be married anymore...what are you hoping the outcome is of your fighting this?


Just curious.


You want to:


(a) Stay unhappily married forever


(b) Get an explaination before your divorce


(c) A passport


(d) Chuck him in Jail


What exactly will each outcome achieve?


In my opinion, if someone wants a divorce, its because he/she doesn't want to be married to you anymore. So you have a choice to either comply or fight for financial or equivalent recompense.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
i do want to get divorce with him the thing is before i did not fight with him to the court cos i was love him but now too much problem and right now he does not want to register to apply divorce cos he does not want to spend any money for that.



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tigerbay 15 yrs ago
He probably worried about alimony.


Has he given you grounds to divorce him, for a quick divorce, before he runs off?


It may be better to take some proper legal advice, and mention he is going to skip the country and remarry without divorce. And see what the experts say.


Your case is not a regular situation. I think you should get proper legal advice.


(assuming this is not a trolling exercise)

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Justin Credible (Part Deux) 15 yrs ago
Then I suggest you apply for the divorce on your own and get him to sign. A quick divorce with no contest can be applied for with very nominal cost to you. Better to be over and done with it, really.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
i do i want asked legal advice?so where i should ask?to the lawyer in Hong kong?or legal Aid ?



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Justin Credible (Part Deux) 15 yrs ago
Erm...a lawyer in Hk would be my suggestion...dunno what legal aid is gonna sort out...but hey, maybe this is a question for the legal forum.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
thanks

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Highway-9 15 yrs ago
If your husband has filed for divorce in Canada AND he appears to have served you all it takes (in Ontario and most provinces) is a wait of 6 months, a 15 minute court proceeding and then a wait of 30 days and you are divorced.


However, he will then have to pay $20 to get a Certificate of Divorce (after the 30 day wait) and at that point you are both free to marry again.


Quite honestly I think it might well have been a marriage of convenience and the woman, as usual, is paying the price.


Chinese would-be wife/immigrants are paying between Canadian$20,000-30,000 for a successful immigration to Canada.

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Ed 15 yrs ago
You can get some initial advice FOC here http://hongkong.asiaxpat.com/forums/legal-advice/

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
i did thanks

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
thanks to all.well i just so wonder so since he sent me a paper last year and i did not show up any thing which mean after that day and he have to wait for a while he could have a divorce paper without my sign?I just wonder for that cos he kept saying that he could marriage any where in this world accept Hong kong.


Regards

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Highway-9 15 yrs ago
BusyBuddy:

Canadian privacy laws are quite strong - the government can't share sertain information between husband and wife without permission. Since Anna never landed in Canada and he is not doing anything she is in limbo.


She might want to forget but she can't until she finds out her status. Divorce information is public info in Canada and is posted on web sites.


Another point is that in certain Asian cultures divorced women are viewed differently to unmarried women - typical of Chinese males, for example - and this guys activity could end up doing more damage than people might see on first glance.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
thank u so much highway :)


Best Regards

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Dream_Catcher 15 yrs ago
Posted by iamanna_2003 (4 days ago)


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Hello any one I'm just confusing with my marriage.I marriage some one from Canada and when we were marriage his Visa holding was visitor and we marriage legally in Hong kong and my visa is working Visa.And after that i went back to my country and he went back to canada to proccess my permanent resident visa but we have a big problem and he cancel.


He tried to sent me divorce letter but i did not sign any thing and now we are hang and not even divorce.


He always says that he has no problem to marriage in any country accept Hong kong without divorcing me.


And he did not report our marriage in Canada.

What I'm asking is is that true what he said that he can marriage again without divorcing me?


Thank U so much wished any one know my problem and help me to resolve my situation.


Cheers


In Hong kong



"Divorce in foreign land while the origin of marriage is in Hong Kong".


I made the same inquiry before in one of the legal council in Hong Kong and this is what i got.


Once He send you a divorce paper thru legal council where in divorce is legal and widely practice on the said country like canada then that is official, once you recieve the notice whether sign it or not... sorry to say, but "Yes" he can marry a female living organizm here in planet earth but i am not quit so sure in Hong Kong because your marriage still exist in this country "HK" unless other wise the devorce is file in Hong Kong and send it to you thru legal council. But then again divorce is also legally practice in Hong Kong so there is a possibility that your no longer married to this man...


Why not make it official and stop thinking of hanging in the limbo... free your self and move on... and besides remember it must be two to tango! if this man doesnt want to dance anymore to your music then time to choose another partner.


wish you all the best in life!

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
well thanks i did moved on for so long since last year

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GemmaW 15 yrs ago
iamanna, I don't get it.


On the one hand you say that you've moved on but on the other, you told us that he sent you divorce papers and you didn't sign anything. So how can you move on and enjoy a life without him if you don't sign the papers?


What exactly do you want from this marriage? If a man wants out, I would say, "Come back to Hong Kong and let's both sign the papers to end the marriage as soon as possible". Isn't this better? That way both of you can go your own ways.


Unless of course what you really want now is to get some $$ from this marriage and if he signs the papers, you are entitled to half his wealth?


I can understand how you feel about being promised a good life and then being kicked in the behind. But at the same time, is it really worth going through all the heartaches being rejected etc etc. I agree with Dream Catcher. Free yourself and give yourself a chance to meet someone else. Good luck.

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iamanna_2003 15 yrs ago
well that divorce later was long time ago almost last year around april 2008 and i was still in love with him and i was not accept to lost him but now everything is deferent sorry

and my marriage was last 2007

thanks

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heavenlydude 15 yrs ago
what I concluded is that you wanted to get married to him not because of love but just to go to Canada and may be now he changed his mind ,i still dont know what problems you both had. Why always men have to be wrong.

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heavenlydude 15 yrs ago
I feel Anna you are desperate and sad not because that you cant get hi s love is just that you cant get the canadian visa . Tell me if i am wrong


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