Moslem and civil marriage issues



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Posted by ddavids 13 yrs ago
A friend of mine has got himself into a sticky situation. He is separated from his wife, but still married. His girlfriend is pregnant. She is a Moslem, and is desperate to get married before it is obvious she is carrying a baby. She will need to return to Indonesia once her state is apparent to her employer. To return there pregnant but unmarried is something she dreads. They are both very keen to avoid this.


It is, apparently, unlikely a divorce can come through quickly. He is happy to do a Moslem, non-civil ceremony here in HK, which is sufficient for her. He believes a Moslem marriage ceremony is not recognised at law in Hong Kong, where they live. Thus, he assumes that he would not be breaking HK law if he were to go through with this ceremony before getting divorced.


Can anybody confirm that this is the case?


dd

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COMMENTS
Justin Credible (Part Deux) 13 yrs ago
I know someone who knows someone who did pretty much what you are talking about. He married a Malay Muslim lass in Singapore in a Muslim civil ceremony while he waited on his divorce to come through from his ex in South America somewhere.


Its a bit of a grey area and I dont think the girls family knew or even know to this day what the deal is, but in the case of the person I knew about, he is now officially divorced from this ex, but not sure what the official stance is for his Muslim partnership...either way, he has a beautiful kid now and is happy with his family unit. Also, I know for a fact that he did go through the whole Muslim wedding ceremony before his divorce was finalized...


That is just one real life case I am telling you about. The end decision is based on what your friend decides to do. No amount of asking around for advice can allay the very real fear of being busted for polygamy and shizz like that, so the better plan would be to keep it quiet so that as little people who need to know will find out.


Of course, the issue of your friends Indonesian Muslim gf going home pregnant and unmarried may even pose a great risk of physical harm coming to her because of the blemish on the honor of her family, and its a bit late to say that she should have thought that one through before doing the deed in the first place, but its already done...so in the hopes that she is protected in harm, I hope your friend can find the best way to do the honorable thing and in the mean time also work his butt off to get his divorce sorted.

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CaptDave 13 yrs ago
Why not change the gf legal employer to the father ? Surely that will allow her to say here. just a thought.



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Brocko 13 yrs ago
If she has major concerns about facing her family, or even Moslem Sharia law, upon her return to Indonesia, then there may be a basis for appeal against deportation.

You say "She will need to return to Indonesia once her state is apparent to her employer." Would I be right if I read that this means she is a foreign domestic helper? If so, then HK has a poor record for offering assistance to these girls, even when it is really necessary. Changing the employer to the father of the child won't help.


Justin Credible II is right, get the divorce sorted, and quick!

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Anchal 13 yrs ago
hi ddavids


did ur frnd got separated before he met his gf? or after meeting his gf? if he's separated from wife before meeting his gf then its v sad that the Indonesian girl is fighting for her rights but if got separated from his wife just bcaz of his gf then I must say both of them shuld be put in jail....caz the man cheated on his wife n the gf she got pregnant to become a permanent ID holder in Hk....as this Indonesian's comes to hk not to earn proper way but do prostitution here...this is their habit n nature to hv relationship with married or permanent ID holder boy frnd they shoudnt be called Muslim caz Muslim r not allowed to do such things specially Muslim girls....but these so called Indonesian Muslim they are doing all the bad things here like having illegal relationship with men having sex with many men as many as they can, drinking, eating pork etc etc....

dont worry abt ur frnd he'll b fine caz his nature is also flirting, n the girl she's like prostitute this is her job...there r so many cases that indonesian girls cannot take their illigal child to their country but still they r doing illigal things.....

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