Okay, this is lo-oo-oo-oong. However, might several of us [obviously me] need a thread just to tell our stories?
Here's a shortened [ha!] version of mine:
In 1999, an American Government-related Company moved my husband of 7 years to an Asian country on a one-year extendable post, no allowance for family in the first year. We had rarely been "happily married" but I refused to walk out with out two children and he wouldn't take responsibility for a break up. I begin searching for a job in the same country. [as a side note, from even before we were married we had wanted to move to Asia]
Three months after he is settled, he emails me that he wants a divorce. I argue [yes, argue] with him non-stop via email; he is evasive but adds that he wants to change jobs to one that is unsuitable for men with families.
I find a job that is three hours from him—to begin during his 9th month there—and accept it. He extends his contract for two more years… to stay in Asia.
After he has been there six months, I gather enough suspicion to ask him directly about his relationships because he suddenly begins writing me more often and sounds, well, depressed.
Yes, he HAD an ONLINE gf who dumped him b/c he couldn't move to her country and rescue her from the economic hardships there… also because he would not promise to take her back to America immediately.
I am VERY hurt, but cannot seem to talk to him reasonably without him accusing me of some kind of treachery, so I let him contact me and try to remain calm when writing him. I begin the process of moving "alone," with a 2½-year-old and a 7-year-old, to Asia.
Six weeks before the move is completed, I divine that he has another g/f by the timbre of his emails. He denies, saying that there IS a female around, because he has become a half-way house in the underground system of rescuing Philippinas from the "bar/dance club" trade who are lured over on false factory-job promises and then get stuck as illegals.
I move, and in the possibly stupidest thing I've ever done, use his work address for the excess baggage, including the family china from my mother.
Arrive in Asia. My immediate boss, an incurably romantic female, has gone extra lengths to provide me with a large family apartment, complete with a huge master bed.
Settle into new work routine. Can now text message husband, but only when he is at home. Can actually call him and talk to him on "landline" during his work hours [a number my hand phone cannot dial], but have little time due to my new job. Our relationship seems to settle into a tentative calm and we are nice to each other. I am slightly hopeful, but very wary.
Christmas Break. Since I am working for an International Co., I get a week plus for Christmas/New Year's. Phone call… from a distraught young lady with a noticeable accent. Am I "XX"? [uses my full first name, which I do not use].
She and I have a conversation during which I am remarkably calm and manage to say almost nothing—I only ask questions. Perhaps I was too shocked to be vitriolic!!
Her first question, after confirming my identity:
Will he [using HIS formal name, which I did not think he used] make a good daddy?
Now THIS is a surprise [especially since he had a vasectomy almost 3 years earlier].
I ask: How much contact does he have with his children now? She begins to cry; tells me that he doesn't contact his daughter [singular] because of me and that my other daughter is not his child since we have been divorced for seven years.
I do not correct her [!!! Looking back, I am amazed at myself!!].
She wants my "blessing" on their relationship and wants to be able to know his daughter.
I ask her to explain why I –and "my" two daughters—are covered by his health insurance. She says that was part of the divorce agreement. [again, I don't questions the logic here—how many divorce agreements cover children who are not to be born for 5 years?].
She tells me that I do not seem mean [!].
I tell her—the only non-question statement other than confirming my name in the beginning—that she can ask any questions that she has.
Again, "Is he a good father?"
I ask, "Do you know him very well?"
"Yes."
"How often does he try to contact his children?" [okay, I do use the plural]
More tears…
"Where is he living?" I am investigating now…
"In his own rented house."
"Why isn't he in a company-provided place?"
"They gave him a dorm room and he doesn't like his roommate."
"Aren't those rooms only for married men on one-year contracts?"
"There wasn't anything else when he got here."
There must have been more—we were on the phone for over two hours—but I don't remember any more of it except that I didn't say anything negative about him or give her any facts, just asked fairly rhetorical questions.
Later that evening he called me and bawled me out for all the lies I told her. I swore to him that I hadn't TOLD her a single thing, that I only asked her questions.
And I never got my china… he told me later that one of his female bosses [who had called me several times] took the box and used my china and the towels in which it was wrapped. I believe either she took it and then didn't know how to get it to me or he took it…. Wait… how did he know about the towels? [truth at last!!]
Now, folks, it's your turn....
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FJane
19 yrs ago
My God
There really are some useless and pathetic people around
Bugger about the china
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Kristin49998, you come across a very intelligent, capable woman. Why did you put in so much effort to follow such an adulterous loser halfway across the world?
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:) Thanks Cloudninety.
Frankly, ~I~ wanted to be in Asia, too!! Oh-- I have never thought nor said that I followed him to Asia, just that I was unable to come here until he was sent by his job.
Note-- I've moved over to BJ; he's still in Asia but in another country.
FJane-- yeah. Thing was [is?] that it was cheap "grocery store china" that was carried when my mum&dad were early marrieds and they collected one piece at a time [I think with S&H GreenStamps]... not worth anything $$ then and still isn't a collectable kind now... just had "value" to me.
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19 yrs ago
You are doing great. You are living somewhere you wanted to try, sounds like a great company to work for, have your kids with you, nice place to live. Well done, shame about the china but worse things can happen.
The problem is your husband sounds like a dickhead. And his girlfriend a foolish girl. He is obviously deceiptful to everyone, of course he has done extremely badly by you, but he is even letting this girl think they have baby potential.
You may be better off without him. Sorry to say this.
I am not sure the financial situation but in most countries husband's can also claim half your assets. If you think the marriage can't be saved, you had better consider that not only should you secure what is fair in a settlement but if you leave it till later, there may be an idiot girlfriend in the picture who tries to egg him on about depriving your children in favour of her and also they can take part of whatever you build from here on. It is not only his questionable ethics you need to trust, but idiot girlfriends as well. He doesn't come across as particularly loyal to you or the girls.
Honestly I am not normally a person to talk this way, I hate settlement arguments, I think people should be able to work it out fairly. But possibly in your case you may need to consider protecting your children in their future from idiot husbands and their idiot girlfriends.
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Bear-- where's that "failed marriage" story? And don't you have kids, to?
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You do need to check this.
In UK law you still have joint and several liability with your ex, even after divorce.
You need to get a seperate court order to divorce yourself of financial responsibility. This includes debts run up after seperation, and even after divorce.
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Another horrible thought.
If he has met a local girl and got her 'up the duff', then he was willing to have unprotected sex. There may have been more than one girl.
Everything may well be ok, but that is pretty reckless and irrisponsible on a number of levels.
On the plus side, he is perhaps trapped (by baby) into a relationship with teh other woman. And seeing as she appears to have misquoted you so well, she may be a bit controlling. So he is reaping the whirlwind he he he.
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